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re: Will Smith's BAC 3x the legal limit when he was shot

Posted on 5/31/16 at 3:24 pm to
Posted by rt3
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Posted on 5/31/16 at 3:24 pm to
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Wouldnt he only have to wipe the gun handle with his shirt to get around this?

considering he arrived on the scene AFTER the first responding police units

that would be kinda hard to do

remember... he wasn't with Smith at that time... he was "several minutes ahead" of them and came to the scene after PT23 texted him about the incident
Posted by baldona
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Posted on 5/31/16 at 3:24 pm to
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First batch of evidence turned over
1 of the reports turned over by prosecutors to the defense was from the ATF

I'm sure they did all the ballistics testing and since the article says nothing of note came out... I'm sure that means Smith's gun came back as expected (meaning it wasn't fired)

also... Ceravolo willingly gave up his DNA to prove he didn't contaminate anything at the crime scene


Interesting. I'm not trying to argue here, I'm just throwing out some thoughts. If Haye's and Smith's gun were both the same caliber would the police have definitely ran ballistics on the wife's GSW and bullet? Say the wife says that Hayes shot her but in reality it was Smith's gun that shot her, would the police automatically test all guns found at the scene? Or would they just test to see if Smith's gun had been fired and since they didn't think it had then move on?
Posted by Nado Jenkins83
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Posted on 5/31/16 at 3:25 pm to
a burnout would look the opposite


trust me I know
Posted by rt3
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Posted on 5/31/16 at 3:27 pm to
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And the results?

the only sentence it got... so apparently nothing of great note
quote:


The ballistics report is in, but defendant Cardell Hayes' attorneys and prosecutors are still waiting on the autopsy report related to the shooting death of former Saints defensive end Will Smith.


more should come out tomorrow during another discovery hearing

ETA: my mistake... more

quote:

Fuller did not address media immediately after the hearing, and there's no word on what the ballistics report reveals. New Orleans police collected three guns from the scene: one was the one police say Hayes used, another gun was found in Hayes vehicle and a third gun was found in Smith's vehicle.
This post was edited on 5/31/16 at 3:30 pm
Posted by rt3
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Posted on 5/31/16 at 3:28 pm to
here's what's expected tomorrow

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A new discovery hearing date was set for June 1 when both parties expect to receive the autopsy report and an additional report written by the lead New Orleans Police Department homicide detective on the case, Bruce Brueggeman. Napoli indicated the supplemental report they're waiting on by Brueggeman was the second one he's penned in the case. A third report, written by the first responding officer, was publicly released weeks ago.
Posted by Nado Jenkins83
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Posted on 5/31/16 at 3:32 pm to
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A third report, written by the first responding officer, was publicly released weeks ago.


anyone have link?
Posted by reddman
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Posted on 5/31/16 at 3:33 pm to
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Are these skid marks from a tire found on an H2? From the 2nd collison


If I recall correctly from a previous discussion, they definitely werent from Smith's car.

Not sure if they were from the H2 or not.
Posted by baldona
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Posted on 5/31/16 at 3:33 pm to
So the wife was shot in the side of both of her legs, her right new and her left thigh it looks like and the claim in the media is it was by a .45. What kind of gun was found with Smith and what was the 3rd gun found?
Posted by tigerpimpbot
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Posted on 5/31/16 at 3:34 pm to
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I am willing to bet everyone at the scene was impaired and acting retarded.



Spot on
Posted by Napoleon
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Posted on 5/31/16 at 3:35 pm to
Those are All terrain tires, could be from the H2, but most rim riding african americans use sport tires, as they don't make many A/T tires for large rims. No doubt those where a/t tire treads in that pic.

Posted by rt3
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Posted on 5/31/16 at 3:38 pm to
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So the wife was shot in the side of both of her legs, her right new and her left thigh it looks like and the claim in the media is it was by a .45. What kind of gun was found with Smith and what was the 3rd gun found?

I'm fairly certain I read somewhere that the other 2 weapons found were 9mm

I'm trying to find the article now
Posted by reddman
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Posted on 5/31/16 at 3:38 pm to
Yeah I know. I work in the industry.
Posted by kook
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Posted on 5/31/16 at 3:38 pm to
not illegal if the gun wasn't physically on his person though, correct? What if it was in the glove compartment?
Posted by Nado Jenkins83
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Posted on 5/31/16 at 3:40 pm to
I willing to bet Smiths gun never got pulled. But if he said he was going get it does that give Hayes reasonable fear for his life? Probably not.
Posted by rt3
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Posted on 5/31/16 at 3:41 pm to
here we go

quote:

NOPD detectives executed a search warrant on Tuesday morning for Smith's Mercedes G63 and the suspect Cardell Hayes' Hummer H2, and recovered a fully loaded revolver inside Hayes' vehicle and a fully loaded 9-millimeter handgun inside Smith's vehicle.


ETA: so Will's weapon was a 9mm

still not sure on the revolver found in Hayes' H2
This post was edited on 5/31/16 at 3:44 pm
Posted by Breesus
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Posted on 5/31/16 at 3:42 pm to
So?

What does this have to do with a piece of shite thug shooting someone and their wife?
Posted by Nado Jenkins83
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Posted on 5/31/16 at 3:45 pm to
It shows he made some poor choices that day
Posted by StrongBackWeakMind
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Posted on 5/31/16 at 3:46 pm to
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What does this have to do with a piece of shite thug shooting someone and their wife?

Considering how aggressive people become when intoxicated, it certainly lends some credence to Hayes' assertion that he was not the aggressor.

This is a relevant fact, whether you want to admit it or not.
This post was edited on 5/31/16 at 3:47 pm
Posted by lsupride87
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Posted on 5/31/16 at 3:46 pm to
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What does this have to do with a piece of shite thug
What do you call someone driving around drunk hitting people and running?

It rhymes with reese of itch pug?
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
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Posted on 5/31/16 at 3:46 pm to
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Those are All terrain tires, could be from the H2, but most rim riding african americans use sport tires, as they don't make many A/T tires for large rims. No doubt those where a/t tire treads in that pic.



The Hummer:



Big AT tires on that thing.
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