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re: Will Smith Murder Trial-Guilty of manslaughter and attempted manslaughter

Posted on 12/7/16 at 4:20 pm to
Posted by Nado Jenkins83
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Posted on 12/7/16 at 4:20 pm to
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Didnt the Smith party say they noticed they were being followed? So they would then think that someone hit them from behind intentionally? That would be pretty good grounds to be upset.





yeah it never crossed their minds that it was same orange hummer that they just possibly ran into and left.
Posted by Geauxgurt
Member since Sep 2013
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Posted on 12/7/16 at 4:21 pm to
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explain to me why its ok for the Smith party to act fricking retarded


Never justified their behavior. My point was being calm doesn't make you somehow innocent or less of a murderer in this case.

Once all the facts come out, it will be up to the jury to decide, but nothing to this point has justified Hayes' shooting and killing Smith. Nothing.

Just as you can't claim you feared for your life and do what you want. It is like someone saying I saw a black man walking on the street 30 feet away, and they feared for their life, so they shot him. According to some of you, that is reasonable.
Posted by lsupride87
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Posted on 12/7/16 at 4:21 pm to
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Nothing is black and white, but the jury will be asked to apply an objective standard, not the perpetrators perception.
Please post the objective standard


You realize when they read them the objective standard, that will be interpreted a million different ways by a million different people.
Posted by tigerpimpbot
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Posted on 12/7/16 at 4:21 pm to
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Nope, I've done far more work on the other side, never worked as prosecutor a single day, even in mock trial.


Reading your posts, your judgment must be clouded by being a saints superfan. Innocent until proven guilty is a constitutional right, but you know that since you've done far more work on the other side.
This post was edited on 12/7/16 at 4:24 pm
Posted by lsupride87
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Posted on 12/7/16 at 4:22 pm to
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According to some of you, that is reasonable
Link?
Posted by diat150
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Posted on 12/7/16 at 4:23 pm to
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Just as you can't claim you feared for your life and do what you want. It is like someone saying I saw a black man walking on the street 30 feet away, and they feared for their life, so they shot him. According to some of you, that is reasonable.


why the hyperbole? is that anywhere close to what happened here? there was a hit and run, another wreck, and then a confrontation.
Posted by Lester Earl
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Posted on 12/7/16 at 4:23 pm to
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Donald Chick Foret ?@chickforet 6m6 minutes ago
He(Hayes) said to me: "What was I supposed to do?"



quote:


Donald Chick Foret ?@chickforet 9m9 minutes ago
"I saw the gentleman in red holding a gun". "He was overwhelmed and exasparated."



really seems like a guy who was a set out to murder Will Smith (sarcasm)
This post was edited on 12/7/16 at 4:25 pm
Posted by lsupride87
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Posted on 12/7/16 at 4:24 pm to
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fun bunch
The fact the supreme court is often split on interpreting laws, shows just how subjective they are.
Posted by Nado Jenkins83
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Posted on 12/7/16 at 4:25 pm to
Nobody is saying that

You really can stretch the truth and you seem to think you know what everyone thinks and feels, but you don't.

Posted by Lester Earl
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Posted on 12/7/16 at 4:25 pm to
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The fact the supreme court is often split on interpreting laws, shows just how subjective they are.




bunchy doesnt realize that jurors are human
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 12/7/16 at 4:25 pm to
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"I saw the gentleman in red holding a gun". "He was overwhelmed and exasparated."
Quite different from him standing over smith like his conquest
Posted by Chad504boy
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Posted on 12/7/16 at 4:26 pm to
2 different parts in time
Posted by lsupride87
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Posted on 12/7/16 at 4:26 pm to
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2 different parts in time
So Hayes is bi-polar?
Posted by Chad504boy
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Posted on 12/7/16 at 4:28 pm to
Oneal was holding a revolver...???
Posted by Nado Jenkins83
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Posted on 12/7/16 at 4:28 pm to
Like westworld?
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 12/7/16 at 4:30 pm to
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Oneal was holding a revolver...???
Yes. But it appears he retrieved it after the shooting
This post was edited on 12/7/16 at 4:30 pm
Posted by Chad504boy
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Posted on 12/7/16 at 4:30 pm to
I knew of the revolver being in the vehicle but I never knew O'Neil had out of the vehicle
Posted by diat150
Louisiana
Member since Jun 2005
48068 posts
Posted on 12/7/16 at 4:30 pm to
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Oneal was holding a revolver...???


when the officer came on the scene.
Posted by diat150
Louisiana
Member since Jun 2005
48068 posts
Posted on 12/7/16 at 4:32 pm to
On tape, Hayes just told McGaw a gun was in Hayes' hand.

so this is interesting. nobody else testified that hayes had a gun in hand. the previous witness just said that they were hand checking, so it would have been real obvious if he had a gun in hand.

this is also why you never talk to the police.
Posted by TigerBait1127
Houston
Member since Jun 2005
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Posted on 12/7/16 at 4:34 pm to
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The Hayes white knights are extremely weird.


point them out please



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Nado Jenkins83

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