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re: Will Smith Murder Trial-Guilty of manslaughter and attempted manslaughter
Posted on 12/7/16 at 2:55 pm to diat150
Posted on 12/7/16 at 2:55 pm to diat150
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thats not what she said
even if something was "seen" doesn't mean they gonna tell you something was "seen" if they are waiting for proper protocol to go through such vehicles.
Posted on 12/7/16 at 2:56 pm to Chad504boy
It is humorous that you won't open your eyes.
Billy Ceravolo was on the scene.
NOPD has openly stated he looked into the vehicle. Some witness statements have said he was inside of the vehicle. (We know what that means)
It is what the defense is leaning towards.
It does seems suspicious for the vehicle not to be searched at the scene. If the vehicle is picked up by a tow truck and lifted up to be moved and driven through the great smooth roadways of New Orleans then the actual location of items which could be considered evidence could have moved around. So determining where they were located prior to moving is pretty damm critical. Especially if you are looking the location of a supposed gone or shell casings.
Billy Ceravolo was on the scene.
NOPD has openly stated he looked into the vehicle. Some witness statements have said he was inside of the vehicle. (We know what that means)
It is what the defense is leaning towards.
It does seems suspicious for the vehicle not to be searched at the scene. If the vehicle is picked up by a tow truck and lifted up to be moved and driven through the great smooth roadways of New Orleans then the actual location of items which could be considered evidence could have moved around. So determining where they were located prior to moving is pretty damm critical. Especially if you are looking the location of a supposed gone or shell casings.
Posted on 12/7/16 at 2:58 pm to Chad504boy
Im wondering how the gun was wedged between seat and console.


Posted on 12/7/16 at 2:58 pm to TigerFred
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The evidence that wasn't retrieved until multiple days after? The evidence that was reported didn't exist for nearly week?
Police can search impounded cars without a warrant. I believe that is why they waited.
It's all about legalities.
Posted on 12/7/16 at 3:00 pm to Chad504boy
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something black wedged in a deep dark crevice isn't clearly visible
We can't speculate on the gun's position really. When I'm driving, mine is in the exact same spot, in s position that you could not miss. No point in keeping it somewhere I have to dig for it.
Posted on 12/7/16 at 3:01 pm to TigerFred
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It is humorous that you won't open your eyes.
Billy Ceravolo was on the scene.
NOPD has openly stated he looked into the vehicle. Some witness statements have said he was inside of the vehicle. (We know what that means)
It is what the defense is leaning towards.
It does seems suspicious for the vehicle not to be searched at the scene. If the vehicle is picked up by a tow truck and lifted up to be moved and driven through the great smooth roadways of New Orleans then the actual location of items which could be considered evidence could have moved around. So determining where they were located prior to moving is pretty damm critical. Especially if you are looking the location of a supposed gone or shell casings.
will's gun was deemed not having been fired. but have fun with whatever stories you are choosing to listen to. i don't know what you want me to provide you. you're now disregarding facts of the case because fuller wants you to.
This post was edited on 12/7/16 at 3:04 pm
Posted on 12/7/16 at 3:02 pm to Red Stick Tigress
Cops can search a car at a crime scene.
Posted on 12/7/16 at 3:04 pm to Chad504boy
Assistant DA making point with Pierre Thomas in re-direct that Cardell Hayes brandishing a gun was more dangerous than Richard Hernandez taking off his shirt. The ADA used defense attorney John Fuller's example of how fistfights lead to knife fights lead to gunfights by asking if any of those things happened with Will Smith. Thomas said no. And the ADA asked if Richard Hernandez's behavior led to Hernandez being shot at or killed. Thomas said no. "Why can't we just take out our guns when we start yelling each other?" the ADA said.
Mike Triplett, ESPN Staff Writer
Mike Triplett, ESPN Staff Writer
Posted on 12/7/16 at 3:05 pm to Chad504boy
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Assistant DA making point with Pierre Thomas in re-direct that Cardell Hayes brandishing a gun was more dangerous than Richard Hernandez taking off his shirt. The ADA used defense attorney John Fuller's example of how fistfights lead to knife fights lead to gunfights by asking if any of those things happened with Will Smith. Thomas said no. And the ADA asked if Richard Hernandez's behavior led to Hernandez being shot at or killed. Thomas said no. "Why can't we just take out our guns when we start yelling each other?" the ADA said.
Good work by the ADA on a big point.
Fuller seems to be doing a really good job too but tweets can be extremely misleading. We'll see.
Posted on 12/7/16 at 3:07 pm to Chad504boy
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And the ADA asked if Richard Hernandez's behavior led to Hernandez being shot at or killed. Thomas said no.
How was this question allowed?
Posted on 12/7/16 at 3:09 pm to Janky
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How was this question allowed?
same reason it was allowed for Fuller to imply that it did in such a dramatic way in front of the jury.
Posted on 12/7/16 at 3:13 pm to MasterofTigerBait
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Cops can search a car at a crime scene.
The following article addresses the issue:
NOLA.com article on search warrant
Posted on 12/7/16 at 3:13 pm to Chad504boy
Implying and asking a witness to speculate seem like two completely different things, no?
Posted on 12/7/16 at 3:15 pm to Chad504boy
Cacioppo says a "well-dressed lady" grabbed the shirtless white man, likely Hernandez.
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Ramon Antonio Vargas ?@RVargasAdvocate 2m2 minutes ago
Cacioppo believed a shirtless white guy who charged in was going to get clocked by bigger black men around him. Reuses the word 'ridiculous'
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Danny Monteverde ?@DCMonteverde 3m3 minutes ago
"He was very sporadic," Cacioppo says. "It looked like he was gonna charge into the brawl."
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Cacioppo says that "it was simultaneous my attention got drawn to a white guy with no shirt ..."
Posted on 12/7/16 at 3:15 pm to Janky
Fuller previously asked if fist fights lead to knife fights that lead to gun fights....
Posted on 12/7/16 at 3:15 pm to Chad504boy
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ardell Hayes brandishing a gun was more dangerous than Richard Hernandez taking off his shirt.
I thought Thomas said earlier that he did not see Hayes with a gun.
Posted on 12/7/16 at 3:15 pm to Janky
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asking a witness to speculate
It's not speculation. It is fact that Hernandez wasn't shot and killed.
Posted on 12/7/16 at 3:16 pm to Janky
Same reason the judge allowed a cavalcade of saints to parade around the jury. 
Posted on 12/7/16 at 3:17 pm to Chad504boy
Ramon Antonio Vargas ?@RVargasAdvocate 17s17 seconds ago
Cacioppo eventually noticed one man was holding a gun, told his wife, 'There's a gun out!' Then, 2 shots ring out ...
After the initial argument, Cacioppo says, he saw a gun. "I told my wife there's a gun out." Then, two shots. He says Hayes had the gun.
OH LAWD THIS IS IT
Cacioppo eventually noticed one man was holding a gun, told his wife, 'There's a gun out!' Then, 2 shots ring out ...
After the initial argument, Cacioppo says, he saw a gun. "I told my wife there's a gun out." Then, two shots. He says Hayes had the gun.
OH LAWD THIS IS IT
This post was edited on 12/7/16 at 3:18 pm
Posted on 12/7/16 at 3:17 pm to Red Stick Tigress
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It's not speculation. It is fact that Hernandez wasn't shot a
Ah, there it is. I read it as Smith being shot or killed. Carry on.
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