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re: Will Smith Murder Trial-Guilty of manslaughter and attempted manslaughter

Posted on 12/7/16 at 1:40 pm to
Posted by Red Stick Tigress
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Posted on 12/7/16 at 1:40 pm to
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Yes, his body was found in the seat.


He was slumped over the seat with his left arm over the steering wheel. Feet were outside the vehicle pointing toward passenger door as shown in some of the photographs from scene.
Posted by Chad504boy
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Posted on 12/7/16 at 1:43 pm to
TigahJay is still stuck in April.
Posted by TigahJay
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Posted on 12/7/16 at 1:44 pm to
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He was slumped over the seat with his left arm over the steering wheel. Feet were outside the vehicle pointing toward passenger door as shown in some of the photographs from scene.

Right, and he was shot in the back. If his feet were in the street and his back was facing out but he still had his left hand on the steering wheel, it seems pretty clear to me that he was leaning into the car to reach for something, not getting in to drive off. The gun was right between the drivers seat and the center console.

ETA: it is still hard to explain how Smith's wife was shot twice
This post was edited on 12/7/16 at 1:46 pm
Posted by Mr. Hangover
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Posted on 12/7/16 at 1:44 pm to
You kissass
Posted by Zach Lee To Amp Hill
New Orleans
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Posted on 12/7/16 at 1:44 pm to
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Then when the argument seems over, Hayes finally decided frick it Im going to kill him?


maybe Smith turned around. for whatever reason.

but even if Smith said he had a gun in the car that doesn't mean Hayes just gets to shoot him in the back.
Posted by Chad504boy
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Posted on 12/7/16 at 1:45 pm to
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it seems pretty clear to me that he was leaning into the car to reach for something


let me start capping your arse after your wife is shot and see what you want to reach for too.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 12/7/16 at 1:45 pm to
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but even if Smith said he had a gun in the car that doesn't mean Hayes just gets to shoot him in the back.

What about

"I am going to get my gun and Kill you Mr. Hayes"


Would that be enough? I am just feeling you out to see if there is any possible way you will say he is not guilty
Posted by Mr. Hangover
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 12/7/16 at 1:45 pm to
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all that being said I think the jury is going to think Hernandez is a liar and instigated shite and Hayes is going to walk.



Well this line of thinking doesn't make sense.. if Hernandez was fighting O'Neil, then why is it justifiable for Hayes to shoot smith?
Posted by lsupride87
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Posted on 12/7/16 at 1:46 pm to
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let me start capping your arse after your wife is shot and see what you want to reach for too
So you think he shot his wife, and then paused. Got a slurpee, and smoked a black and mild before going after Will?
Posted by Nado Jenkins83
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Posted on 12/7/16 at 1:47 pm to
i wish everyone there would have just beat the shite out of the white boy


would be a better world
Posted by Zach Lee To Amp Hill
New Orleans
Member since Mar 2016
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Posted on 12/7/16 at 1:47 pm to
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"I am going to get my gun and Kill you Mr. Hayes"


yeah sure, then he'd be guilty. I mean reaching into your vehicle isn't all that threatening.

it really all depends on if anyone said there was a gun in the Mercedes.
Posted by TigahJay
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2015
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Posted on 12/7/16 at 1:47 pm to
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let me start capping your arse after your wife is shot and see what you want to reach for too.

Except there is no indication from any testimony that his wife was shot before he decided to go to the car to get the gun.
This post was edited on 12/7/16 at 1:49 pm
Posted by Zach Lee To Amp Hill
New Orleans
Member since Mar 2016
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Posted on 12/7/16 at 1:48 pm to
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i wish everyone there would have just beat the shite out of the white boy would be a better world


he's not white. we're not claiming him.
Posted by Zach Lee To Amp Hill
New Orleans
Member since Mar 2016
4991 posts
Posted on 12/7/16 at 1:51 pm to
quote:

if Hernandez was fighting O'Neil, then why is it justifiable for Hayes to shoot smith?


it wouldn't be. but he's lying about everything, his wife is lying, Thomas is saying that he was starting shite and took a swing at O'Neal, etc.

plus you know there's going to be defense witnesses that say Smith said he had a gun in the car, etc.

it just looks really bad that someone in Smith's car was acting super belligerent and then lied about it on the stand. and yeah the jurors aren't supposed to be worried about that kind of thing but we all know that isn't the case.
Posted by Mr. Hangover
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Posted on 12/7/16 at 1:53 pm to
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it wouldn't be. but he's lying about everything


He's not gonna be the only one to testify and there will be forensic evidence


Agree with you for the most part though
This post was edited on 12/7/16 at 1:54 pm
Posted by Nado Jenkins83
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Posted on 12/7/16 at 1:54 pm to
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Donald Chick Foret ?@chickforet 6m6 minutes ago New Orleans, LA True story:While taping a story just now on Tulane Ave. protesters started yelling at me with a megaphone:"Chick Foret gotta go!" I love it!



Posted by TigahJay
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2015
11402 posts
Posted on 12/7/16 at 1:55 pm to
What else do you think the forensic evidence will show? I don't even think the defense is arguing that Smith was shot in the back.
This post was edited on 12/7/16 at 1:55 pm
Posted by Chad504boy
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Posted on 12/7/16 at 1:56 pm to
FUller was yapping about gun powder or whatever on Smith's hand. Not sure what that would suppoosedly mean.
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
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Posted on 12/7/16 at 1:56 pm to
quote:

"I am going to get my gun and Kill you Mr. Hayes"


Not necessarily. And guess what, there's a long standing Louisiana case directly on point.

Case law!!!!!
Posted by TigerFred
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Member since Aug 2003
27895 posts
Posted on 12/7/16 at 1:58 pm to
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Not sure what that would suppoosedly mean.


It would mean that Smith fired his gun.

C'mon I know you aren't this dumb.
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