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Posted on 12/9/16 at 2:47 pm to Mr. Hangover
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Have you posted that on TD before? I swear that sounds familiar
not that I recall.
Posted on 12/9/16 at 2:49 pm to tLSU
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He shall not be permitted to refer to notes
Wow...really? I didn't realize that a juror couldn't take notes. How are they supposed to remember all of the testimony?
Posted on 12/9/16 at 2:50 pm to Covingtontiger77
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Ramon Antonio Vargas ?@RVargasAdvocate
The jury indicates it is ready to review video evidence presented by the state during the Will Smith murder trial.
and the 911 call is being replayed as well
Posted on 12/9/16 at 2:51 pm to Covingtontiger77
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Sat on a murder jury in Jefferson back in, I guess 2006 or 2007. 3-4 day trial. Guy accused of killing one of his neighbors in an apartment complex- kind of by the bestbuy on vets. we finally convicted and sent away for life.
You would be shocked and appalled at the stupidity of some of the makeup of a jury of your peers.
I'll never forget that experience. We had one hold out. A Canadian woman from the West Bank that told us straight up in the beginning of deliberations that no matter what she didn't trust any police and basically without a video of the man doing it she just didn't know.
We finally got her to come around. It dear god she was a freaking moron and definitely not one of my "peers."
The judge actually met with us for a few minutes and said we got it right. Apparently the guy we convicted also was once convited on a mandlaughter beef, gotten out. The Circumstances of the manslaughter beef were almost exactly the same as the one we just convicted on. We didn't get to hear about the first one at our trial.
It won't shock me one bit if Hayes walks.
I have a similar story.
Served on a jury on a fairly high profile gang rape case. Couldn't believe I got picked.
I've edited out the details. Not a good idea to post about it, case is probably still on appeal.
This post was edited on 12/9/16 at 2:53 pm
Posted on 12/9/16 at 2:52 pm to medtiger
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Wow...really? I didn't realize that a juror couldn't take notes. How are they supposed to remember all of the testimony?
Well, paragraph B allows it in certain situations:
B. A juror shall be permitted to take notes when agreement to granting such permission has been made between the defendant and the state in open court but not within the presence of the jury. The court shall provide the needed writing implements. Jurors may, but need not, take notes and such notes may be used during the jury's deliberations but shall not be preserved for review on appeal. The trial judge shall ensure the confidentiality of the notes during the course of trial and the jury's deliberation and shall cause the notes to be destroyed immediately upon return of the verdict.
Posted on 12/9/16 at 2:53 pm to TigerFred
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I am still on the fence on whether or not Hayes is guilty of Murder 2. I currently think he is guilty of manslaughter but want to see all of the evidence before making a final determination.
QUESTION: What exactly are the charges? If the only charge brought is Murder-2, can the jury return the lesser charge of Manslaughter?
Posted on 12/9/16 at 2:53 pm to Sid in Lakeshore
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QUESTION: What exactly are the charges? If the only charge brought is Murder-2, can the jury return the lesser charge of Manslaughter?
Yes, manslaughter is a responsive verdict.'
ETA: there are additional charges of attempted second degree murder and aggravated criminal damage.
One charge of aggravated assault was severed and is not at issue today.
This post was edited on 12/9/16 at 2:56 pm
Posted on 12/9/16 at 2:54 pm to rt3
I'm hearing the chances of Hayes testifying have gone from "no fricking way" to "highly fricking likely," mainly due to the fact that they can't locate their key witness.
Posted on 12/9/16 at 2:58 pm to Fun Bunch
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jeep @sirsaint100
@chickforet you think they will put Hayes on the stand?
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Donald Chick Foret ?@chickforet
I wish I could bet on it.
Posted on 12/9/16 at 2:59 pm to reddman
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I'm hearing the chances of Hayes testifying have gone from "no fricking way"
The chances were never this except to those who know law from watching TV and who don't know Fuller.
Posted on 12/9/16 at 3:01 pm to tLSU
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The chances were never this except to those who know law from watching TV and who don't know Fuller.
i can only go off of what my source tells me.
Posted on 12/9/16 at 3:07 pm to reddman
just going to drop this here.
This post was edited on 12/9/16 at 3:08 pm
Posted on 12/9/16 at 3:08 pm to reddman
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i can only go off of what my source tells me.
I know. As I said previously, Fuller has called defendants more than anyone else in the building. Many of them quads. It was an 80% chance Hayes was taking the stand from the day this thing started.
Posted on 12/9/16 at 3:08 pm to Chad504boy
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just going to drop this here.
to make the note... that's Fuller in the red tie on the grass next to the OPSO deputy
Posted on 12/9/16 at 3:09 pm to tLSU
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tLSU
any thought to reddman's comment on inability to locate a witness?
Posted on 12/9/16 at 3:09 pm to tLSU
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Many of them quads.
please explain what you mean here? I might just be dumb but I don't know what you mean
Posted on 12/9/16 at 3:10 pm to rt3
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to make the note... that's Fuller in the red tie on the grass next to the OPSO deputy
yep. and that's steve gleason in the wheelchair with the mobile computer speaking device.
Posted on 12/9/16 at 3:15 pm to Chad504boy
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yep. and that's steve gleason in the wheelchair with the mobile computer speaking device.
everyone knows Gleason
everyone may not know what Fuller looks like
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