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re: Will New Orleans ever have a White and middle class plurality again?
Posted on 4/29/25 at 10:55 am to UptownJoeBrown
Posted on 4/29/25 at 10:55 am to UptownJoeBrown
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The real solution to making NO better? Crack the frick down on crime HARD!!
They can't/won't. That means building prisons, a few of them. That ain't going to happen.
My proposal, when the oil companies decommission offshore platforms, turn a couple of them into prisons. Kinda like in Face Off. Those baws aren't going anywhere unless they can make 150+ mile swim.
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Posted on 4/29/25 at 10:55 am to dallastiger55
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Atlanta is 47% black and 39% white There is also an article from last month saying black owned businesses are at an all-time high in the Atlanta area and not slowing down anytime soon. It led the country in black owned growth the last five years. It’s called black Mecca for a reason
Posted on 4/29/25 at 10:56 am to PelicanState87
There's a house down the road from our rental that is currently renting at $12k a month. The house is only 3500 s.f. No one should pay rent at those prices and most people can't afford it BUT it stays rented every year. NOLA is running off the middle class.
Posted on 4/29/25 at 10:58 am to PelicanState87
It helps to have several Fortune 500 companies based there. Delta, Coke, Home Depot, UPS, Southern Company, Aflac, Assurant, Norfolk Southern, and Newell Brands.
There are several more I can’t even think of. They probably have 20-30 Fortune 500 companies based there.
This bring jobs. Both high dollar and middle class dollar.
Nola has nothing close to that. They have Entergy that’s it.
No businesses want to come here. Lack of infrastructure. Poor schools. High cost of living thanks to insurance rates for auto and home. Plus dealing with seasonal storms, flooding, and an overall poor geographical climate.
I haven’t even touched the poor leadership from a political standpoint.
There are several more I can’t even think of. They probably have 20-30 Fortune 500 companies based there.
This bring jobs. Both high dollar and middle class dollar.
Nola has nothing close to that. They have Entergy that’s it.
No businesses want to come here. Lack of infrastructure. Poor schools. High cost of living thanks to insurance rates for auto and home. Plus dealing with seasonal storms, flooding, and an overall poor geographical climate.
I haven’t even touched the poor leadership from a political standpoint.
Posted on 4/29/25 at 11:00 am to turnpiketiger
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Look at inner loop Houston. Decades of gentrification pushed undesirables out between Beltway8/610 and beyond. Now the inner loop portion of Houston is for the most part pretty upscale and nice. Houston has way more resources and way more concentrated wealth opposed to New Orleans.
I don’t see why Nola proper couldn’t sort of pull this off but all of the CBD relies on people to work these events so if they don’t live there you can’t pull these events off.
So many people ignoring the raw data because it doesn't fit their narrative or narrow world view. Many large city cores are getting whiter and more affluent due to cost of living and lack of available, affordable housing. Not sure if good or bad, but Houston is a great example.
You need good transit for this to work to allow workers to get to jobs (especially tourism/hospitality jobs) even if they can't afford to live downtown. Believe it or not, Houston (proper and metro area) has invested a ton in new transit the past 20 years and its paying off.
Last note, JP is getting way more brown and black, and this trend isn't stopping.
Posted on 4/29/25 at 11:08 am to Delacroix22
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All of these factors work together to suppress the potential of New Orleans. And some people like it like that.
That's the thing about New Orleans that drives me up the wall the most. It has potential. It has massive potential. But, the chances of that potential being realized in anyone's lifetimes are pretty much zero because of all the reasons you listed, and the general apathy to do literally anything about any of it.
Posted on 4/29/25 at 11:11 am to Geauxld Finger
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No businesses want to come here. Lack of infrastructure. Poor schools. High cost of living thanks to insurance rates for auto and home. Plus dealing with seasonal storms, flooding, and an overall poor geographical climate. I haven’t even touched the poor leadership from a political standpoint.
Too scared to say the biggest reason huh?
Posted on 4/29/25 at 11:29 am to Ed Osteen
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Tourism is the only thing that keeps the lights on
People always forget about the port.
Posted on 4/29/25 at 11:30 am to UptownJoeBrown
You can call it what you want to call it. Nola will never have a white or black middle class really without jobs and appealing circumstances to raise families.
Posted on 4/29/25 at 11:32 am to PelicanState87
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Will New Orleans ever have a White and middle class plurality again?
Posted on 4/29/25 at 11:35 am to PelicanState87
No never not gonna happen impossible
Posted on 4/29/25 at 11:37 am to PelicanState87
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Also Atlanta will have a White and middle class plurality by 2030. New Orleans needs to follow the Atlanta blueprint. A city that went from mostly poor and Black to mostly White and middle class in 20 years. If Atlanta can do it, so can New Orleans. Atlanta is expensive just like New Orleans ... that's one of the biggest driver for the change. But the ATLANTA BRAND is able to attract a lot more affluent people from outside Georgia as well, that's where New Orleans fail.
Atlanta has been a serious city with serious people for about 150 years. New Orleans was a silly city even when it was one of if not the most prosperous cities in the world....even at its height New Orleans was where wealthy folks from the Delta went to get the frick off the farm. The wealth at one time was incomparable but it was based on fleeting fads and the whole damn place is built under water. There is no reason for New Orleans to exist today in its current configuration.....its silly place over ran and mostly inhabited by silly people....
Posted on 4/29/25 at 11:37 am to neworleansnotsouthla
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When u think of New Orleans you think of black people. i mean yall have Alexandria Lake charles Baton Rouge and Laffy lol why can’t yall let us blacks have our city
Why do y’all keep moving to Chalmette?
Posted on 4/29/25 at 11:39 am to chalmetteowl
I was in Memphis a few weeks ago and couldn't wait to gtfo of there and get back to NOLA.....Memphis is a fkn black shithole....I think i even left a day early....Beal Street sucks, their music sucks and their food sucks
Posted on 4/29/25 at 11:39 am to PelicanState87
Gotta do something about insurance or people will just move right back out.
Posted on 4/29/25 at 11:39 am to PelicanState87
Like everything the Blacks touch it goes to Hell…
Look at N O East in the 70s
Posted on 4/29/25 at 11:41 am to PelicanState87
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Second line if I'm not mistake was derived from Native Americans. Native Americans mixed with Blacks and Blacks got all the credit
Mardi Gras Indians actually come from blacks in New Orleans seeing the Buffalo Bill's Wild West show when it traveled to town in the late 19th century, and adopting the dress of the Indians they saw in the show for their Mardi Gras costumes. It's pretty much just straight up cultural appropriation.
The Second Line is simply the parade of mourners who follow the funeral procession though town to the cemetery. Once the departed is interred, a celebration of life breaks out - usually starting with a trumpet starting "Joe Avery's Blues", as the mourners then parade to (usually) someone's house where they engage in the repast.
Joe Avery's Blues
Posted on 4/29/25 at 11:42 am to dallastiger55
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Atlanta is 47% black and 39% white
There is also an article from last month saying black owned businesses are at an all-time high in the Atlanta area and not slowing down anytime soon. It led the country in black owned growth the last five years.
It’s called black Mecca for a reason
And has been since reconstruction. Massive population in Atlanta is constantly on the hustle....they own 3-4 businesses and work 7 days a week 12 and 14 hours. They ain't second lining 'cause its a Tuesday, they are hanging drywall and laying blocks....even the Katrina refugees in Atlanta are on the hustle....pulling for the Saints and Pelicans of course but out of the house at daylight landscaping someone's yard or roofing their house...
Posted on 4/29/25 at 11:44 am to RibsandWhiskey
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The real solution to making NO better? Crack the frick down on crime HARD!!
They can't/won't. That means building prisons, a few of them
That's not the crime they need to crack down on. That crime is in the City Council and the Mayor's office. That's what's keeping business out of the city, it's just too hard/expensive to conduct business there.
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