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re: Wild hogs are the biggest menace to nature in this country

Posted on 12/3/19 at 12:49 pm to
Posted by TigerFanInSouthland
Louisiana
Member since Aug 2012
28065 posts
Posted on 12/3/19 at 12:49 pm to
quote:

First, you make a roux...


I don’t even bother with those bastards. I just put them in the back of the buggy and hail the whole carcass to the gut pit. frick a hog.

They’re really not good eating. Just regular pork that you get from the store is better than that nasty shite.
This post was edited on 12/3/19 at 12:56 pm
Posted by White Bear
Yonnygo
Member since Jul 2014
13794 posts
Posted on 12/3/19 at 12:52 pm to
quote:

You don't have to spread them. Without exaggeration, a single boar and 2 sows can be 3 packs of 30ish feral hogs in 3 or 4 years. That's WITH management. Unchecked and with ample food supply and habitat? Double that, easily.
I understand, amigo. Folks still spread them, create a problem they can have fun "solving". Some landowners still buy into that jazz.
Posted by MoarKilometers
Member since Apr 2015
17879 posts
Posted on 12/3/19 at 12:52 pm to
quote:

You ever see what tannerite does to a pack of hogs?

Yes, the retired cop neighbor is big into this doesn't bring me back any pulled pork
Posted by Rouge
Floston Paradise
Member since Oct 2004
136793 posts
Posted on 12/3/19 at 12:56 pm to
Feral hogs are not good eating unless piglets or small females

Population will not decrease until enough motivation ($$) put out there to hunt them down
Posted by fishfighter
RIP
Member since Apr 2008
40026 posts
Posted on 12/3/19 at 12:56 pm to
quote:

Listened to the Joe Rogan podcast episode with Steven Rinella and apparently black bear are delicious AF. Never knew. Now I want to try bear meat.


Very greasy. Yep, tried it once.
Posted by VolsOut4Harambe
Atlanta, GA
Member since Sep 2017
12856 posts
Posted on 12/3/19 at 12:57 pm to
quote:

Me neither.

I've heard of hogs in, say, Byhalia and Rossville, but not in Shelby County.



Collierville is pretty damn close to both of those places
Posted by Bigbee Hills
Member since Feb 2019
1531 posts
Posted on 12/3/19 at 12:58 pm to
5 years ago we performed a boundary survey and river mapping project for a developer who'd bought a contiguous thousand acre block of land in the ecosystem that you speak of. It started up slope with row crop fields and gradually descended down into the Wolf River swamp, crossed the river and continued back upslope on the other side of the river. The new owner told us to shoot any-and-all hogs on site, and I was looking forward to the opportunity because I hate them and also because the acreage was a primed one for a hog infestation.

Probably 60+% of the acreage was Wolf River swamp. Once we were deep inside the property on our traverse we opted to make camp in lieu of pulling out all of our equipment & instruments and lose time doing it all over again the next morning. Throughout the process of living in the woods for a few days at a time, setting the corners, mapping the top bank of the river as it meandered through the property and blazing all of the boundary lines every 100 feet, we had to wade, swim, motor, paddle, kill cottonmouths (and at times try not kill each other). All that to say, we covered damned near every acre on that block and didn't see what you speak of...yet.

The Wolf is a grand river bottom in the area you and I speak of, and so I realized that, per usual, my 1st experience within its confines was not indicative of the entire ecosystem in that area. That realization came to fruition a few months later when we returned in order to follow up on some work: The land was lit up with hog sign.

I can only describe it as being cancerous: A literal cancer to the land, its owner, the soil, the row crops, and most importantly, to the ground dwelling wildlife that called it home.

Long story long, that is how fast an infestation of hogs can occur: Overnight, if conditions are ripe. In this case, the habitat + agriculture + a new owner having minimal activity on the land (as compared to the prior owners who hunted and killed any hogs they saw) meant an explosion of WILD PIGS. Hogs are not dumb, and they respond quickly to hunting pressure; they'll often evacuate an area (albeit temporarily) once a few of them start hitting the ground. But even without pressure, they are gypsies across the landscapes where they live, and are akin to a roving, dreadful band of killers who can (and regularly do) smell whitetail fawns (where native predators usually cannot), and hone in on them and devour them alive. The fawn was doing what its native instincts told it to do: Sit still and don't move and the threat will likely pass by; too bad that doesn't work very well with a pig. (On one WMA I used to hunt, they estimated over 60% of the fawn crop was being lost to just hogs alone; the population had specialized in it.)

They are masters of adaptability, and one day they can be "here," and the next they're gone, but if the habitat is preferred, they will be back.

I hate a feral pig. They are a bane to the North American continent's wildlife, and to the people who care about conserving said wildlife. They are an invasive species, and regardless of whether or not they offer me an "ethical" shot, I send freedom seeds in their direction, and unless it's a pregnant sow or piglets and convenient for me to harvest them, I leave em' for dead. If it's an especially rank pig, like say, a big mature boar, they say that even a buzzard won't dine on the stinking son-of-a-bitch. I don't blame him, but even if he does or doesn't, the maggots will...or another pig. The only good feral pig is a rotting one, and I think the nesting turkeys and quail would agree, if they could.

TLDR: You are correct. They are a cancer to the landscape and wildlife, and if possible, I attempt to kill every one I see. We all should.
Posted by Loup
Ferriday
Member since Apr 2019
11212 posts
Posted on 12/3/19 at 1:01 pm to
quote:

I don’t even bother with those bastards. I just put them in the back of the buggy and hail the whole carcass to the gut pit. frick a hog.

They’re really not good eating. Just regular pork that you get from the store is better than that nasty shite.



you're doing something wrong then lol. I dump the boars but the sows are pretty damn tasty. a rank boar will make you evacuate your house when you cook it, though. I use the sows for ham, Canadian bacon, grind meat, breakfast sausage, and gravy steaks.

kill all of them whether or not u eat them,
This post was edited on 12/3/19 at 1:04 pm
Posted by AlonsoWDC
Memphis, where it ain't Ten-a-Key
Member since Aug 2014
8758 posts
Posted on 12/3/19 at 1:03 pm to
Yeah I know, just saying.

Not disputing. A healthy TIL for me.
Posted by GreatLakesTiger24
COINTELPRO Fan
Member since May 2012
55548 posts
Posted on 12/3/19 at 1:05 pm to
Have the hogs infected every corner of the state, or are they mostly on the west side? Is there a significant population in Livingston, cenla, Monroe, etc
Posted by AlonsoWDC
Memphis, where it ain't Ten-a-Key
Member since Aug 2014
8758 posts
Posted on 12/3/19 at 1:05 pm to
Thanks for the knowledge.
Posted by 9Fiddy
19th Hole
Member since Jan 2007
64025 posts
Posted on 12/3/19 at 1:06 pm to
quote:

In that forest there apparently is a pretty sizeable pack of feral hogs that has run rampant over the past couple of years.


12 pack of beer
AR-15 in 300 blackout
Thermal scope
Lawn chair
????
Profit/good sausage
Posted by cas4t
Member since Jan 2010
70891 posts
Posted on 12/3/19 at 1:08 pm to
quote:

I'm waiting for the whackjobs to start claiming that the hog population explosion is connected to global warming, I mean climate change.



Please stop
Posted by Funky Tide 8
Tittleman's Crest
Member since Feb 2009
52647 posts
Posted on 12/3/19 at 1:09 pm to
quote:

5 years ago we performed a boundary survey and river mapping project for a developer who'd bought a contiguous thousand acre block of land in the ecosystem that you speak of. It started up slope with row crop fields and gradually descended down into the Wolf River swamp, crossed the river and continued back upslope on the other side of the river. The new owner told us to shoot any-and-all hogs on site, and I was looking forward to the opportunity because I hate them and also because the acreage was a primed one for a hog infestation.

Probably 60+% of the acreage was Wolf River swamp. Once we were deep inside the property on our traverse we opted to make camp in lieu of pulling out all of our equipment & instruments and lose time doing it all over again the next morning. Throughout the process of living in the woods for a few days at a time, setting the corners, mapping the top bank of the river as it meandered through the property and blazing all of the boundary lines every 100 feet, we had to wade, swim, motor, paddle, kill cottonmouths (and at times try not kill each other). All that to say, we covered damned near every acre on that block and didn't see what you speak of...yet.

The Wolf is a grand river bottom in the area you and I speak of, and so I realized that, per usual, my 1st experience within its confines was not indicative of the entire ecosystem in that area. That realization came to fruition a few months later when we returned in order to follow up on some work: The land was lit up with hog sign.

I can only describe it as being cancerous: A literal cancer to the land, its owner, the soil, the row crops, and most importantly, to the ground dwelling wildlife that called it home.

Long story long, that is how fast an infestation of hogs can occur: Overnight, if conditions are ripe. In this case, the habitat + agriculture + a new owner having minimal activity on the land (as compared to the prior owners who hunted and killed any hogs they saw) meant an explosion of WILD PIGS. Hogs are not dumb, and they respond quickly to hunting pressure; they'll often evacuate an area (albeit temporarily) once a few of them start hitting the ground. But even without pressure, they are gypsies across the landscapes where they live, and are akin to a roving, dreadful band of killers who can (and regularly do) smell whitetail fawns (where native predators usually cannot), and hone in on them and devour them alive. The fawn was doing what its native instincts told it to do: Sit still and don't move and the threat will likely pass by; too bad that doesn't work very well with a pig. (On one WMA I used to hunt, they estimated over 60% of the fawn crop was being lost to just hogs alone; the population had specialized in it.)

They are masters of adaptability, and one day they can be "here," and the next they're gone, but if the habitat is preferred, they will be back.

I hate a feral pig. They are a bane to the North American continent's wildlife, and to the people who care about conserving said wildlife. They are an invasive species, and regardless of whether or not they offer me an "ethical" shot, I send freedom seeds in their direction, and unless it's a pregnant sow or piglets and convenient for me to harvest them, I leave em' for dead. If it's an especially rank pig, like say, a big mature boar, they say that even a buzzard won't dine on the stinking son-of-a-bitch. I don't blame him, but even if he does or doesn't, the maggots will...or another pig. The only good feral pig is a rotting one, and I think the nesting turkeys and quail would agree, if they could.


Cool post
Posted by Cosmo
glassman's guest house
Member since Oct 2003
120172 posts
Posted on 12/3/19 at 1:10 pm to
Black Bears are now overpopulated in South LA and are becoming a problem. Not very scared of humans.

We need a limited bear season to cull the numbers IMO
Posted by TigerFanInSouthland
Louisiana
Member since Aug 2012
28065 posts
Posted on 12/3/19 at 1:10 pm to
quote:

you're doing something wrong then lol. I dump the boars but the sows are pretty damn tasty. a rank boar will make you evacuate your house when you cook it, though. I use the sows for ham, Canadian bacon, grind meat, breakfast sausage, and gravy steaks.

kill all of them whether or not u eat them,



You do you bud, but I simply do not frick with those bastards past taking them off my deer lane and dumping them in the gut pit.
Posted by TIGRLEE
Northeast Louisiana
Member since Nov 2009
31493 posts
Posted on 12/3/19 at 1:10 pm to
You are dumb as dirt.

They have zero predators.
They are an absolute menace to humans and hunters in particular.
This post was edited on 12/3/19 at 1:11 pm
Posted by SSpaniel
Germantown
Member since Feb 2013
29658 posts
Posted on 12/3/19 at 1:13 pm to
Did you see any alligators? I've heard that they now inhabit the Wolf Rivers in small numbers, but that may be mainly closer to the Mississippi river side of things.
Posted by boxcarbarney
Above all things, be a man
Member since Jul 2007
22706 posts
Posted on 12/3/19 at 1:14 pm to
My buddy has a hog cage with a cellular operated door on his hunting land. Once every few weeks he and some others head up there to slaughter the hogs they've caught. I've seen the videos and its like a Vietnam War film.

I know farmers will trap hogs, load the cages on a trailer and back the trailer into water to drown them. They are a nuisance animal and must be eradicated.
Posted by Loup
Ferriday
Member since Apr 2019
11212 posts
Posted on 12/3/19 at 1:15 pm to
quote:

past taking them off my deer lane and dumping them in the gut pit.



don't stop. Sometimes I leave them because I don't feel like toting them out. I haven't bought pork in years other than bacon, though.
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