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re: Why weren’t there any guns in the Harry Potter stories?

Posted on 12/27/19 at 8:15 am to
Posted by X123F45
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Posted on 12/27/19 at 8:15 am to
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No, he didn’t. He usually did for the purposes of mentally torturing his victim, but he didn’t have to. YouTube link to final battle:


Yes. Yes he did. Just because the director forgot one of the core principles of Rowling's world, doesn't mean he was correct.

In the goblet of fire it is explained that it has to be said.

Avada Kedavra literally means destroy through speaking.

I'm going wash the nerd off.
Posted by ZappBrannigan
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Posted on 12/27/19 at 8:20 am to
It would end up like Fables, just on a larger scale than the exiles war against the empire.
Posted by Joshjrn
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Posted on 12/27/19 at 8:21 am to
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Yes. Yes he did. Just because the director forgot one of the core principles of Rowling's world, doesn't mean he was correct.

In the goblet of fire it is explained that it has to be said.

Avada Kedavra literally means destroy through speaking.

I'm going wash the nerd off.


It’s been years since I’ve read the books, but I have no reason to doubt you
Posted by yatesdog38
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Posted on 12/27/19 at 8:28 am to
Bro, effective wizards can read minds. They already know.
Posted by Joshjrn
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Posted on 12/27/19 at 8:41 am to
After spending a few minutes falling down the rabbit hole, while I have no doubt you're correct about what was stated, it appears as though there are at least a couple of times in the books that its non-verbal use was heavily implied. Quora thread on the same question:

LINK
Posted by X123F45
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Posted on 12/27/19 at 9:15 am to
...now I have to go read seven damned books...

Posted by LCA131
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Posted on 12/27/19 at 9:22 am to
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A bullet flies faster than the mind can think.




I'm not sure how you even make this statement, Bub. How are you measuring things, linearly? Is this in that weird metric system?

Posted by Joshjrn
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Posted on 12/27/19 at 9:38 am to
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...now I have to go read seven damned books...


So, the issue we run into is how much we want to trust the knowledge of the in-world characters versus how much we trust the consistency of the author. The character could have absolutely said, and believed, what you posted. But they could simply be wrong. Or, they are right, and JKR was simply lazy in her world building.

If this were Brandon Sanderson, I would feel pretty close to 100% that the character was simply wrong. With JKR, who the frick knows
This post was edited on 12/27/19 at 9:39 am
Posted by SoFla Tideroller
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Member since Apr 2010
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Posted on 12/27/19 at 10:45 am to
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and then she forgets/abandons the plot device for the 7th book entirely


Details weren't her thing
Posted by deltaland
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Posted on 12/27/19 at 10:47 am to
Pretty sure it took place before guns were a thing
Posted by Fun Bunch
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Posted on 12/27/19 at 10:52 am to
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Pretty sure it took place before guns were a thing



The HP books take place in the late 90s
Posted by Miketheseventh
Member since Dec 2017
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Posted on 12/27/19 at 10:56 am to
I couldn’t tell you what they have or don’t have in those movies. I have never seen one and never plan to see one. I think they are stupid
Posted by junior
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Member since Mar 2005
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Posted on 12/27/19 at 11:24 am to


Harry's uncle had one- It didn't help.



And yes, they had them in Fantastic Beasts- again, didn't help

Posted by Oilfieldbiology
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Posted on 12/27/19 at 11:43 am to
The fact that this thread has gone on for so long makes me so happy
Posted by TigerFanInSouthland
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Member since Aug 2012
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Posted on 12/27/19 at 11:47 am to
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Harry's uncle had one- It didn't help.


Vernon never actually shot at Hagrid. As soon as he pulled the gun on him, Hagrid grabbed the barrel and bent it. Not Magic was involved, Hagrid was just part giant that could bend steel with his bare hands.
Posted by TigerFanInSouthland
Louisiana
Member since Aug 2012
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Posted on 12/27/19 at 11:48 am to
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couldn’t tell you what they have or don’t have in those movies. I have never seen one and never plan to see one. I think they are stupid


It’s actually pretty impressive how JK Rowling was able to hit on so many ancient archetypes.
Posted by TigerFanInSouthland
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Posted on 12/27/19 at 11:50 am to
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I'm not sure how you even make this statement, Bub. How are you measuring things, linearly? Is this in that weird metric system?


It’s my own measurement system, top secret.
Posted by Joshjrn
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Member since Dec 2008
33417 posts
Posted on 12/27/19 at 12:08 pm to
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I have never seen one

quote:

I think they are stupid


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