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re: Why the hell is the Fed thinking about lowering interest rates?

Posted on 8/2/24 at 5:24 pm to
Posted by WalkonQB
Member since Jun 2023
511 posts
Posted on 8/2/24 at 5:24 pm to
With all due respect I’m not sure that you understand Capitalism.
Lower rates increase production/ expansion.
Posted by wutangfinancial
Treasure Valley
Member since Sep 2015
11637 posts
Posted on 8/2/24 at 5:26 pm to
The Fed understands their policies have been unproductive in terms of lowering price levels and have injected volatility into short term rate markets all while unemployment has bottomed
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
130914 posts
Posted on 8/2/24 at 5:54 pm to
quote:

said Yung-Yu Ma
He should just stick to playing the cello...
Posted by tigerbutt
Deep South
Member since Jun 2006
25428 posts
Posted on 8/2/24 at 6:20 pm to
Following England’s lead and yes election season is upon us.
Posted by pbro62
Baton Rouge
Member since May 2016
13979 posts
Posted on 8/2/24 at 7:11 pm to
You really are stupid
Posted by Swampy7557
Member since Dec 2014
184 posts
Posted on 8/2/24 at 7:15 pm to
Because Obama wants it
Posted by TigerintheNO
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2004
42803 posts
Posted on 8/2/24 at 7:20 pm to
quote:

People are broke.


No, the govt. is broke. Think about how much interest payments are on $35 trillion in debt.
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
87317 posts
Posted on 8/2/24 at 7:20 pm to
quote:

Still 65% above their 2% target.


Core on truflation is 1.5, 3% on CPI and 2.5% on PCE

Truflation uses better and much more data

And shelter is the majority and they dont report accurate info
Posted by mmmmmbeeer
ATL
Member since Nov 2014
8789 posts
Posted on 8/2/24 at 7:34 pm to
quote:

This is all a result of economic policies over the last 40 years. No president can fix this, the system needs to crash.

We have been holding off the crash since 2008 with quantitative easing. All that does is pass the buck and make the eventual crash even worse.

Buckle up.


You're right, the supply-side economic policies of the last 40 years have been an unmitigated disaster.

The system doesn't need to crash to be reset. GDP is growing, a full blown pandemic only dropped us to ~11% unemployment, stock market is at record levels, our debt sure as shite isn't scaring investors enough to sink tbills. A contraction is inevitable, not a crash.

If anything is going to see a hard reset, it's going to be labor. People are fed the frick up with supply side economics. They're sick of the majority of tax cuts going to businesses and the ultra-wealthy. They're sick of seeing their employers recording record revenues/profits while they're laying off folks at the same time. They're sick of their wages not keeping up with inflation. A lot of people don't even get annual merit or cost-of-living increases. American labor production/productivity has done nothing but go upward while we, the people who actually DO the fricking work, haven't reaped any of the benefits. It won't even necessarily be organized labor, but there's a fricking reckoning coming within the next 10-15 years, imo.
Posted by Bayou_Tiger_225
Third Earth
Member since Mar 2016
11659 posts
Posted on 8/2/24 at 7:48 pm to
quote:

There was not runaway inflation when Trump was President which is why interest rates were low.
Man, I’m not trying to be an arse, but you don’t know what you’re talking about.

Think of the economy like an engine. It was running hot when Trump was president. Yeah it was running good, but like any engine it can only run hot for so long. Instead of cooling it down through interest rate hikes, rates stayed low and that just made things run even hotter. Then Covid happed and the rates were dropped to historic lows. That was like adding NOS to an already red hot engine. Well that engine threw a rod in 2021 and we’ve been limping along ever since
Posted by I 10 one lane merge
Member since Oct 2018
271 posts
Posted on 8/2/24 at 7:56 pm to
Because people need more free stuff at home to play more often
Posted by tadman
Member since Jun 2020
4764 posts
Posted on 8/2/24 at 9:00 pm to
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Did you speak out when Trump was beating up the Fed, demanding lower rates when they were already historically low?



THanks T Soy.

We were in an entirely different place economically so it's not a valid comparison, but we appreciate you logging in and making sure you reminded us of your TDS. Have a good weekend baw.

Posted by TigerFanatic99
South Bend, Indiana
Member since Jan 2007
32736 posts
Posted on 8/2/24 at 11:08 pm to
quote:

They're sick of the majority of tax cuts going to businesses and the ultra-wealthy.


You lost me there. Trump tax cuts made a noticeable impact for our family, and we're as low middle class as they come. Family of four with joint income of $125k in Indiana.

This narrative that Republicans only cut taxes for the rich and corporations is objectively false.
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
132963 posts
Posted on 8/2/24 at 11:15 pm to
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Why the hell is the Fed thinking about lowering interest rates?


The only reason now is to help the current administration. It would be a political move.

The stated goal of the Fed is 2% inflation. We are still well above 2% around 2.9%.

At most the Fed should raise rates 25 bps or at least do nothing.
This post was edited on 8/2/24 at 11:30 pm
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
132963 posts
Posted on 8/2/24 at 11:22 pm to
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Family of four with joint income of $125k in Indiana.


If Kamala wins and based on $125k annual income the likelihood of you paying approximately $2k more in federal income taxes a year is very high. She will veto legislation to extend the Trump tax cuts. Trump will keep the current rates in place.
Posted by BayouChamp
Angola
Member since Jan 2008
69 posts
Posted on 8/2/24 at 11:27 pm to
You lost me there. Trump tax cuts made a noticeable impact for our family, and we're as low middle class as they come. Family of four with joint income of $125k in Indiana.
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How? For my family of 3 at $350K/yr (all W2) in Texas, taxes sure in the hell increased. Capping SALT was a major difference since the home taxes in Texas are ridiculous, even though there is no state income tax.

Maybe I need a new accountant to find loopholes.

Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
132963 posts
Posted on 8/2/24 at 11:34 pm to
At $350k a year your federal income tax liability will increase about $20k.

Just find and online 2015 federal income tax calculator and compare it to the 2024 income tax calculator. If the Trump tax cuts expire in 2025 and congress does nothing else we are going back to 2015 rates.
Posted by Motownsix
Boise
Member since Oct 2022
2663 posts
Posted on 8/3/24 at 1:17 am to
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People are broke.


If anyone is broke after the past 7 years they made major mistakes in decision making.
Posted by Motownsix
Boise
Member since Oct 2022
2663 posts
Posted on 8/3/24 at 1:22 am to
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Did you speak out when Trump was beating up the Fed, demanding lower rates when they were already historically low?


So many policy decisions made pre-COVID were horrible. Keeping interest rates low well after they should have been raised and keeping gas prices low based on a reliance on foreign oil were about the worst.
Posted by Motownsix
Boise
Member since Oct 2022
2663 posts
Posted on 8/3/24 at 1:23 am to
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quote:high inflation paired with a sluggish economy with rising unemployment. We're almost there


Fingers crossed we are almost there.
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