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Posted on 11/2/22 at 3:54 pm to Slagathor
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forfeiting your freedom to stick it to black people
Broken windows and stop and frisk are how Giuliani cleaned up NYC.
Also, it's not a black thing. Trash comes in all colors and it all needs to be taken out.
Posted on 11/2/22 at 3:55 pm to SlowFlowPro
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Why the broken windows theory of policing always works by SlowFlowPro
a. This isn't really an example of Broken Windows policing
b. If you're willing to give up your rights, cool. Some people value them more highly than you do.
I don't really have a problem with this case. If your dumb enough to have and do all that illegal shite as a convicted felon, and then also illegal tint your front window to where you stand out, then you deserve it.
If you're a law abiding citizen and want to illegally tint your front window, it won't ever be much of an issue for you other than eventually you will be pulled over for it or something and be told to remove it.
Posted on 11/2/22 at 3:55 pm to SCLibertarian
quote:What? it 100% affects your ability to see out of that windshield.
Blacked out windshields don't affect other drivers
quote:Probably the one where it's illegal to tint your front windshield as a reason to stop you to start.
What right does the government have to stop and search me because they can't see into the vehicle that I own and pay taxes on?
This post was edited on 11/2/22 at 3:58 pm
Posted on 11/2/22 at 3:57 pm to LSUFanHouston
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small pharmacy of illegal drugs..
Eh
A couple ounces of drugs. Low level no one at best.
That's like when the news says someone had an armory with two guns and 500 rounds
Posted on 11/2/22 at 3:59 pm to VADawg
quote:no it isn’t, data over time has shown it was negligible at best. NYC crime trends mirrored most comparable cities at the time.
Broken windows and stop and frisk are how Giuliani cleaned up NYC.
Posted on 11/2/22 at 3:59 pm to SCLibertarian
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Blacked out windshields don't affect other drivers,
Drunk drivers don’t effect other drivers
Posted on 11/2/22 at 4:00 pm to Slagathor
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forfeiting your freedom to stick it to black people
Seems slightly racist to just assume everyone driving around with tinted windshields and drugs are black people
Posted on 11/2/22 at 4:01 pm to Steadyhands
quote:then you aren’t a law abiding citizen
If you're a law abiding citizen and want to illegally tint your front window,
And when that officer you’re willing to blow on a day to day basis decides to say ‘he smells weed’ and rips your car apart…. Classic FAAFO, remember you should have been a law abiding citizen
Posted on 11/2/22 at 4:33 pm to LSUFanHouston
Take him outside and shoot him
Posted on 11/2/22 at 4:54 pm to shel311
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What? it 100% affects your ability to see out of that windshield.
Lol. You do realize these laws aren't limited to front windshields? Nobody tints their front windshield. We're talking about side windows. And guess who's exempt from this? Cops in unmarked cars.
Posted on 11/2/22 at 4:58 pm to LSUFanHouston
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His bond has been set at $493,350.
While murderers get less.
Not saying this guy should be on the streets, but that does seem excessive compared to the crime.
Posted on 11/2/22 at 5:00 pm to LSUFanHouston
Other than maybe the tramadol tablets (I don’t know anything about that), literally nothing that he was accused of during that traffic stop should have been illegal. Not the pot, not the guns, not the window tint. None of that should have been remotely criminal. F$&k our fascist police state. For every one bust like this, they put 200 innocent joe’s through the ringer for no good reason but to extract revenue. Traffic stops are nothing more than legalized and officially sanctioned highway robbery. Unless a car is engaging in activity so dangerous that it and its operator need be removed from the Highway, there’s no reason to pull a car over and go through with a traffic stop.
Posted on 11/2/22 at 5:02 pm to ChineseBandit58
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Or should you have that 'right'??
You absolutely f$&king should, and your insurance company should have the right to charge you extra for it if it’s such a dangerous situation.
Posted on 11/2/22 at 5:10 pm to kingbob
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Other than maybe the tramadol tablets (I don’t know anything about that), literally nothing that he was accused of during that traffic stop should have been illegal. Not the pot, not the guns, not the window tint. None of that should have been remotely criminal. F$&k our fascist police state. For every one bust like this, they put 200 innocent joe’s through the ringer for no good reason but to extract revenue. Traffic stops are nothing more than legalized and officially sanctioned highway robbery. Unless a car is engaging in activity so dangerous that it and its operator need be removed from the Highway, there’s no reason to pull a car over and go through with a traffic stop.
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Agents also recovered from Silvan's possession a Glock 17 .9 mm semi-automatic handgun with a switch that is used to turn it into a fully automatic weapon, as well as an extended magazine. The gun also was discovered to be listed as stolen out of Calcasieu Parish.
Posted on 11/2/22 at 5:11 pm to SCLibertarian
The main issue I have with this is that asset forfeiture targets the owner of the property, not necessarily the criminal. Thus, the innocent owner defenses are affirmative defenses, which vastly weaken them, and introduce huge 5th amendment concerns.
It's not ok to fight crime by violating the property rights of innocent third parties. And in rem proceedings necessarily can't prove the necessary element of any crime except a strict liability crime, since property can't have intent.
It's not ok to fight crime by violating the property rights of innocent third parties. And in rem proceedings necessarily can't prove the necessary element of any crime except a strict liability crime, since property can't have intent.
Posted on 11/2/22 at 5:15 pm to LSUFanHouston
Yes Broken Windows works but...
The story in the OP isn't that. This is a case where the police had info that the guy was dealing drugs. Almost certainly from catching one of his customers, from someone he ripped off or from a jilted lover. They didn't have enough for a search warrant so they do surveillance and wait for him to drive away from the house. They find a reason to stop him, window tint on the windshield, and then smell MJ. From there it's a vehicle search and a search warrant on the house. Pretty standard stuff.
The story in the OP isn't that. This is a case where the police had info that the guy was dealing drugs. Almost certainly from catching one of his customers, from someone he ripped off or from a jilted lover. They didn't have enough for a search warrant so they do surveillance and wait for him to drive away from the house. They find a reason to stop him, window tint on the windshield, and then smell MJ. From there it's a vehicle search and a search warrant on the house. Pretty standard stuff.
Posted on 11/2/22 at 5:15 pm to Slagathor
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it's wild reading how many posters here support pretextual stops
How is it a pretextual stop? Do you suggest that the cop should be limited to only writing a ticket for the infraction that led to the stop, and has to ignore the other fruits of a valid law enforcement procedure. So, write the speeding ticket and ignore the bound and gagged child in the back seat? or just ignore the low level violation for fear of catching someone riding dirty. crazy talk.
Posted on 11/2/22 at 5:16 pm to crmzon
The gun being stolen is an issue, obviously. Does that prove the one in possession is the robber? It absolutely does not. However, further investigation into how it ended up in the driver’s possession is warranted.
Fully automatic weapons should be completely legal. The constitution says “shall not be infringed”, and that’s an absolute. If the bill of rights is a suicide pact, then let us all die together in our liberty.
Fully automatic weapons should be completely legal. The constitution says “shall not be infringed”, and that’s an absolute. If the bill of rights is a suicide pact, then let us all die together in our liberty.
This post was edited on 11/2/22 at 5:20 pm
Posted on 11/2/22 at 5:20 pm to LSUFanHouston
If I've learned anything from watching On Patrol Live, it's that if they think the driver is sketchy, they'll make up anything to pull it over.
"Hey, I pulled you over for a bested tag light. Oh, is that marijuana I smell? Please step out of the vehicle."
Moral: If you're riding dirty, make sure all your shite is fixed.
"Hey, I pulled you over for a bested tag light. Oh, is that marijuana I smell? Please step out of the vehicle."
Moral: If you're riding dirty, make sure all your shite is fixed.
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