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re: Why ‘Swiss Made’ on your watch doesn’t mean what you think it means
Posted on 10/5/25 at 10:22 am to Obtuse1
Posted on 10/5/25 at 10:22 am to Obtuse1
quote:agree. Rolex is king and much like Ferrari they go to great lengths to protect their brand.
They are simply lying to you. It may be a result of the Chinese propaganda push I noted in my edit above.
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Posted on 10/5/25 at 10:24 am to Obtuse1
I've wondered, recently, the extent to which a brand like Patek is outsourcing. I feel like Thierry will do anything to make a quick buck and I would not be surprised if some of the manufacturing for the lower-end (relatively) stuff (sub $100,000) is outsourced to China.
Posted on 10/5/25 at 10:31 am to Obtuse1
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Outside of Seiko they are the most vertically integrated watch company in the world.
I haven’t kept up on the detail in the last few years, but would you say Nomos is beginning to approach this level of integration as well, or do they still have gaps?
Posted on 10/5/25 at 10:31 am to weagle1999
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I read elsewhere that they are playing this outsourcing game too…
That's 100% incorrect.
Posted on 10/5/25 at 10:35 am to Joshjrn
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I haven’t kept up on the detail in the last few years, but would you say Nomos is beginning to approach this level of integration as well, or do they still have gaps?
They could possibly get there but they aren't there. And there is a difference still in a purely German watch and a purely Swiss watch
Posted on 10/5/25 at 10:37 am to Cosmo
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A watch can also appreciate in value or at least hold its value
One could lose their $35 Timex and not bat an eye.
,??
Posted on 10/5/25 at 10:38 am to CAD703X
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Rolex is king and much like Ferrari they go to great lengths to protect their brand.
While I know you know this most people don't; Rolex is wholly owned by a charitable trust: the Hans Wildorf Foundation. The foundation's mission is for the betterment of the cantons of Switzerland, and in particular, Geneva. They simply don't have the impetus to chase short-term profit like publically owned companies do.
To add to that, Rolex has spent literally billions of Swiss Francs building the most advanced watch manufacturing facilities in the world.
Posted on 10/5/25 at 10:39 am to Shut Up Mulllet
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I don’t understand how watches haven’t gone away like the VHS player.
It’s like paying 10,000$ for a telegraph machine.
“Why don’t people agree with me on their personal jewelry and timepiece decisions?”
Posted on 10/5/25 at 10:42 am to Broke
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They could possibly get there but they aren't there. And there is a difference still in a purely German watch and a purely Swiss watch
Of course; I brought up Nomos in the context of expanding the conversation to Seiko.
Posted on 10/5/25 at 11:01 am to weagle1999
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I read elsewhere that they are playing this outsourcing game too…
The company that is deriving their own 904l stainless steel in-house is going outsource their manufacturing to china?
Tell me how little you know about Rolex without telling how little you know about Rolex.
Posted on 10/5/25 at 11:07 am to weagle1999
At the end of the day , it does not matter about outsourcing.
There is Rolex and there are watches…
There is Rolex and there are watches…
Posted on 10/5/25 at 11:09 am to Jcorye1
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Also, whipping out a phone in a lot of situations is considered rude
And you can drop your phone if you’re constantly taking it out of your pocket.
Posted on 10/5/25 at 11:18 am to Jcorye1
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Also, whipping out a phone in a lot of situations is considered rude.
Yes, but frequently looking at your watch while someone is speaking is also extremely rude.
Posted on 10/5/25 at 11:20 am to weagle1999
What's next, you're gonna tell me that "genuine leather" isn't actually real, quality leather?
Posted on 10/5/25 at 11:22 am to Dragula
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Yes, but frequently looking at your watch while someone is speaking is also extremely rude.
Hell of a lot easier to do a slight stretch and look than whip out a phone
Posted on 10/5/25 at 11:24 am to weagle1999
Man who gives a shite?
I just bought a football jersey from the same factory the NFL uses for there’s. It’s identical and 20% the price.
I just bought a football jersey from the same factory the NFL uses for there’s. It’s identical and 20% the price.
Posted on 10/5/25 at 1:24 pm to jcaz
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I just bought a football jersey from the same factory the NFL uses for there’s. It’s identical and 20% the price.
Hopefully it was a gift for a child.
Posted on 10/5/25 at 1:48 pm to Shut Up Mulllet
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I don’t understand how watches haven’t gone away like the VHS player.
It’s like paying 10,000$ for a telegraph machine.
Sorry you have a case of the poors.
Posted on 10/5/25 at 2:53 pm to BHM
quote:takes a lickin keeps on tickin
One could lose their $35 Timex and not bat an eye.
Posted on 10/5/25 at 2:55 pm to Obtuse1
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To add to that, Rolex has spent literally billions of Swiss Francs building the most advanced watch manufacturing facilities in the world.
This is either the unknown, forgotten or simply ignored piece of information from "watch guys" that shite on Rolex from there perch atop the earliest of peaks on the Dunning-Kruger Effect Curve.
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