re: Why so many children out of wedlock?

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there is a reason feely-goody churches have exploded the past 10 years. they remove that sort of personal inventory and accountability

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I go to a large non denominational church. But....we are a bible based church 100%. My senior pastor looks NOTHING like the meme you posted (he is like mid 50s and wears button downs and khakis and lives very modestly) I feel like our church is very welcoming to others but we also talk the truths in the Bible. That being a Christian is hard and that you aren't guaranteed an easy walk on this side of Heaven. In fact...you WILL 100% face challenges and hardships in life. My pastor does nothing to sugar coat this in his sermons.


I remember some of the older pearl clutching types got upset when they found out the pastor had invited a lesbian woman seeking God to one of our sermons. He received a lot of angry emails and at a later sermon he addressed it and basically said he stands by his decision. We are not to turn away someone seeking God. Would you tell someone they can't join Weight Watchers until they have lost all the weight? Would you tell an alcoholic they can't go to AA until they have been sober for at least a year?

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there is a reason feely-goody churches have exploded the past 10 years. they remove that sort of personal inventory and accountability

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so it basically has all the bad parts of religion with none of the positives

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so it basically has all the bad parts of religion with none of the positives

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for the most part. they annoy me so much

there are some very specific positive uses for them that i've seen, like this one local church who helps drug addicts begin that initial process of starting over and re-gaining some self confidence in a supportive community. but that's not really a CHURCH, but i give them respect. they do help feed the homeless and stuff, too.

the problem is, even in that sort of specific instance, they become a crutch for those people. it's almost like a cult in some ways. again, that's the problem with removing personal accountability and inventory from religion.

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So are you one of those folks that thinks we should go back to how the 50s were?


The same decade where black people couldn't enjoy the same things as white people? Where segregation was still a normal thing and white people actually thought a decent thing? Where an interracial couple could never be seen in public?

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You’re one ridiculous SJW. Get out of here with the histrionics. I made an analogy about how things were in the 50s in regards to unwed pregnancy.

Go be a whore, sleep around, get pregnant out of wedlock. I’m not stopping you. Still, it’s all sin. I’m gonna call a spade a spade regardless of your feelings.

Let’s don’t even get started on the plethora of scriptures that states if a member (believer) be in sin that you should not strive (hang out) with them and rebuke them.

Let’s also not discuss how the Bible says you shouldn’t partake with those lost in sin.

But that’s all New Testament discussions people like Nurse don’t want to have. They guise love with acceptance of sin. There is a way to love someone and still hold them accountable.

The Bible actually teaches holding them accountable is the greatest love. That’s why those who love Him love his rebuke.

Marxism appeals to the Middle and Upper Middle Class.

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Marxism appeals to the Middle and Upper Middle Class.

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Why? It does not appeal to me

Spot-on.
Paul VI was right on the money in Humane Vitae when he described the societal consequences and the developments we would see.

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they remove that sort of personal inventory and accountability

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Yep, the oppertunist....money changers. Folks like Joel Osteen et al. You know.....the prosperity gospel frauds.

Scripture prophesized about these charlatans.......

"The time will surely come, when men will grow tired of sound doctrine, always itching to hear something fresh; and so they will provide themselves with a continuous succession of new teachers, as the whim takes them, turning a deaf ear to the truth" - 2 Timothy 4:3-4

"Makin' money in the service of the Lord." - Delmar O'Donnell (O'Brother, Where Art Thou)