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re: Why Not Tunnels?

Posted on 7/24/18 at 12:41 pm to
Posted by X123F45
Member since Apr 2015
29441 posts
Posted on 7/24/18 at 12:41 pm to
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Also, if you honk while driving through, I hope you DIAF.



What if you don't shift up until 11k rpm?
Posted by TheCaterpillar
Member since Jan 2004
76774 posts
Posted on 7/24/18 at 12:47 pm to
Digging tunnels in Baton Rouge's soil would be an hilarious undertaking
Posted by East Coast Band
Member since Nov 2010
66950 posts
Posted on 7/24/18 at 12:50 pm to
Tunnels are a last resort.
Overall, a terrible choice.
I'd hate to have to travel through a tunnel every day.
Posted by Marineaux
Member since Jul 2012
76 posts
Posted on 7/24/18 at 1:36 pm to
A lot of comments about how tunnels are terrible, or “I hate tunnels.” But I am trying to figure out how they are different from a traffic standpoint than a bridge. A friend of mine thinks people just slow down when driving through.

In theory, I think you can have the same number of lanes as a bridge and you have the same issue of it being a bottleneck in a sense that you can’t escape the traffic of an accident once you are on it (or in it).

Maybe the GWT gives people around here a bad taste in their mouth if they’ve run into traffic issues in it? But it seems to me that the issue there is that it’s one of the only direct ways through the bay, and as many people have said they are bidding out a bridge to help spread the traffic like we are considering doing here. I am curious why they are going bridge instead of another tunnel too, but I couldn’t find any info on that either.
Posted by Marineaux
Member since Jul 2012
76 posts
Posted on 7/24/18 at 1:37 pm to
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Digging tunnels in Baton Rouge's soil would be an hilarious undertaking


Is Baton Rouge soil that much different than NOLA soil?
Posted by TheCaterpillar
Member since Jan 2004
76774 posts
Posted on 7/24/18 at 1:38 pm to
Pretty damn different, but that's not saying its easy in Nola either.

Posted by MaHittaMaHitta
Member since May 2014
3195 posts
Posted on 7/24/18 at 1:39 pm to
I only know of two. Belle Chasse and Harvey... where is the other?
Posted by DuckManiak
Member since Nov 2011
3842 posts
Posted on 7/24/18 at 1:45 pm to
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What if you don't shift up until 11k rpm?

2 weeks ago my pup and I were driving through at 9 pm headed for Destin and ol’ baw with duel exhaust in his sweet ‘02 SilverAdo was rapping his pipes across the walls. My dog went crazy. In that moment, I sympathized for all the road rage aggressors out there.
Posted by Pilot Tiger
North Carolina
Member since Nov 2005
73834 posts
Posted on 7/24/18 at 1:47 pm to
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Is Baton Rouge soil that much different than NOLA soil?
much of the south has shite soil for things like basements and tunnels, etc
Posted by 50_Tiger
Arlington TX
Member since Jan 2016
42840 posts
Posted on 7/24/18 at 1:49 pm to
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If you think it’s a shithole, you might be retarded.



I concur, I also find that this particular individual might be of the "challenged" type.
Posted by 50_Tiger
Arlington TX
Member since Jan 2016
42840 posts
Posted on 7/24/18 at 1:50 pm to
635-Exp could be technically a tunnel. It is below grade
Posted by mikelbr
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2008
48994 posts
Posted on 7/24/18 at 1:52 pm to
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Yeah I didn’t know about this work but that’s what I had in mind. Like the article says, huge flood gates for the entrances/exits. I’m sure those monsters wouldn’t be cheap though.


Down here, these flood-gates would be included in the budget BEFORE they break ground.

But we are Looziana soooo... we may wait for catastrophe and then blame/beg FEMA to install them later.
Posted by mikelbr
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2008
48994 posts
Posted on 7/24/18 at 1:55 pm to
quote:

I only know of two. Belle Chasse and Harvey... where is the other?



Houma under the ICWW.
DOTD Link about TUnnel closure

This post was edited on 7/24/18 at 1:56 pm
Posted by CarRamrod
Spurbury, VT
Member since Dec 2006
58277 posts
Posted on 7/24/18 at 3:01 pm to
quote:

Why Not Tunnels?
quote:
Imagine another 2016 flood.....with tunnels


Forgets about Sandy?

NYC flood-proofed a shite load more miles of tunnel than we would need.
NYC tunnels 6 yrs after Sandy

you know what is funny i was talking to a couple NJ transit and MTA employees and they said both departments had just ordered and received like 7 or 8 new train locomotives that were sitting in subway tunnels when the flood happened. All had to be scrapped. They said those were the first new locomotives in like 25 years. they are not cheap.
This post was edited on 7/24/18 at 3:02 pm
Posted by MLCLyons
Member since Nov 2012
4764 posts
Posted on 7/24/18 at 3:13 pm to
probably the whole water thing in Louisiana.
Posted by deltaland
Member since Mar 2011
100226 posts
Posted on 7/24/18 at 3:30 pm to
The best is when you go through the mobile tunnel and you have straight pipes angled out the side, slow down and accelerate up the other side
Posted by ElderTiger
Planet Earth
Member since Dec 2010
7662 posts
Posted on 7/24/18 at 5:27 pm to
quote:

Boston's Big Dig fiasco is a perfect example of why not. The tunnels are nice now, but that was an expensive clusterfrick.


Yea, but Teddy Kennedy, Barnie Frank and a bunch of other Mass. politicians got re-elected many times because of their support for that project.
Posted by BurningHeart
Member since Jan 2017
9956 posts
Posted on 7/24/18 at 5:38 pm to
quote:

Pretty sure it’s because the ground / soil is unstable here


An above ground tunnel may work though...
Posted by Marineaux
Member since Jul 2012
76 posts
Posted on 7/24/18 at 7:08 pm to
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An above ground tunnel may work though...



What exactly did you have in mind? If a tunnel wouldn't work (although I'm not sure I've read convincing support that it wouldn't yet), I'm all for thinking about creative alternatives to a $1.2M (and sure to be climbing) price tag for a new bridge.

One of the problems I see with anything other than a bridge, though, is that Act 488 this year provides pretty narrow language. It basically directs a new Capital Area Roads and Bridge District to discuss and come up with a location and funding solution for a bridge only. Doesn't seem to really give any wiggle room regarding the end product. Of course that could always be amended next year if there was a viable alternative.
Posted by OKTGR580
Baton Rouge to Houston, TX
Member since Apr 2018
6318 posts
Posted on 7/24/18 at 7:27 pm to
Nothing will change because louisiana sucks. Period. Want tunnels? Pick another state
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