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re: Why no Post-TOPS residency requirement?

Posted on 2/18/20 at 2:18 pm to
Posted by Puffoluffagus
Savannah, GA
Member since Feb 2009
6504 posts
Posted on 2/18/20 at 2:18 pm to
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Plenty of medical colleges do it.


Most of the medical colleges that do it want you to be in a primary care field in a rural parish to have your tuition paid for. There's a need and there are jobs easily available for this.

Same cannot be said for many undergraduate degrees or fields.
Posted by DavidTheGnome
Monroe
Member since Apr 2015
31597 posts
Posted on 2/18/20 at 2:21 pm to
I agree there should be a residency requirement. Maybe having to give back half of the tops money if you move out of state. All of it back seems to much (based on nothing but my own feelings on it) but it’s supposed to be an investment in our state but that investment is fleeing as soon as they graduate
Posted by Tigear
Scotland
Member since Sep 2019
823 posts
Posted on 2/18/20 at 2:31 pm to
The "educated" youth claims they can solve the world's problems created by "boomers".

Why can't they stay in LA & create new jobs themselves...?
Posted by TH03
Mogadishu
Member since Dec 2008
172004 posts
Posted on 2/18/20 at 2:46 pm to
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Why can't they stay in LA & create new jobs themselves...?


Do you think that's how things work? You graduate and create a job for yourself?

Jesus.
Posted by rotrain
Member since Feb 2013
390 posts
Posted on 2/18/20 at 3:05 pm to
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Okay boomer.


Hit a little too close to home?
Posted by Tigear
Scotland
Member since Sep 2019
823 posts
Posted on 2/18/20 at 4:01 pm to
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Do you think that's how things work? You graduate and create a job for yourself?

Jesus.


OR

DON'T graduate & create a job for yourself. 1000s do it every single year.
Posted by TH03
Mogadishu
Member since Dec 2008
172004 posts
Posted on 2/18/20 at 4:35 pm to
quote:

Hit a little too close to home?



No, your stupid off topic rant didn't hit close to home with me at all.
Posted by TH03
Mogadishu
Member since Dec 2008
172004 posts
Posted on 2/18/20 at 4:36 pm to
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DON'T graduate & create a job for yourself. 1000s do it every single year.


How exactly are these jobs just created?

Note: applying for and getting a job with a company isn't "creating a job."
Posted by BRich
Old Metairie
Member since Aug 2017
3111 posts
Posted on 2/18/20 at 4:51 pm to
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Wasn't TOPS really just a shift in the funding mechanism? I believe when I was in college (pre-TOPS) the state paid a greater portion of the tuition. Maybe I'm mistaken. I know tuition when I was at LSU was like $1200-1300/semester.


This is correct and you are not mistaken.

In the late 70s and into the 80s, the cost of in-state tuition was subsidized by the state to the tune of 75%. Thus if you were a Louisiana resident back then, you were only paying around 25% of the actual cost of attending college. It was a great deal and real benefit of being a Louisiana resident; it was doing what in-state tuition in any state is SUPPOSED to do-- help make college education available and affordable for state residents (those who graduated high school in the state).

Problem was, back then ALL state schools had an open admissions policy. Essentially ANYONE who graduated from a Louisiana High School was admitted to LSU, UNO, SLU, etc. The guy who barely graduated with a 1.75 GPA got the same tuition deal as the guy graduating with a 3.45 GPA.

However, the 1.75 GPA crowd had to take remedial courses, and usually flunked out of LSU after partying for a semester or year. Real waste of state resources; that 75% subsidy was poorly spent on those 'students".

State colleges then thankfully eliminated the open admissions policy, and later installed TOPS. Along the way, the funding subsidy went from 75% to 25%. The tuition bill was a lot higher, but for those with decent enough grades and test scores, TOPS would pay up to 100% of tuition and fees, so the subsidy is still there, but at least it is going to those who should be in college.

The other problem is the ridiculous rise in the cost of on-campus room and board, which is over $10,000 per year now.
This post was edited on 2/20/20 at 2:41 pm
Posted by lsu13lsu
Member since Jan 2008
11842 posts
Posted on 2/18/20 at 4:54 pm to
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but at least it is going to those who should be in college.




Agree to disagree there.
Posted by RougeDawg
Member since Jul 2016
7751 posts
Posted on 2/18/20 at 5:12 pm to
"The Government is so incompetent!"

"Hey, we should require it to track where 20,000 graduates a year move to!"

This is how you create a 300 person State agency.

This post was edited on 2/18/20 at 5:14 pm
Posted by alajones
Huntsvegas
Member since Oct 2005
35973 posts
Posted on 2/18/20 at 5:13 pm to
I agree. I’ve said this for years. Why should taxpayers pay for you to go to college just to move to Texas or Alabama?
Posted by thelawnwranglers
Member since Sep 2007
42511 posts
Posted on 2/18/20 at 6:11 pm to
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Because often times the job market does not support that premise.

Signed,
2010 graduate


Signed 2001 graduate
Posted by boudinman
Member since Nov 2019
6101 posts
Posted on 2/18/20 at 6:35 pm to
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Wonder why this entitlement program is praised by the right wing loons?


In 1997, House Bill 2154 was signed into law by Governor Mike Foster(R); this bill created TOPS, which was then known as the Tuition Opportunity Program for Students.

Posted by elprez00
Hammond, LA
Member since Sep 2011
31630 posts
Posted on 2/18/20 at 6:45 pm to
Are there enough jobs in Louisiana to preserve the graduate base?

Posted by mdomingue
Lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2010
48643 posts
Posted on 2/18/20 at 6:45 pm to
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the jobs are not here for college grads then maybe we should be putting more people into trade school instead of college.


Tops covers technical college as well. Public schools only though.

https://www.osfa.la.gov/tops_tech.html
Posted by Slippy
Across the rivah
Member since Aug 2005
7844 posts
Posted on 2/18/20 at 6:53 pm to
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However the TOPS program, according to their website, was founded to fund the college education of high achieving, low income students first.


This is dead on balls accurate. But white middle class people in this state will never admit it. Pat Taylor created this to benefit academically qualified kids from impoverished backgrounds.
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