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re: Why no Post-TOPS residency requirement?
Posted on 2/18/20 at 2:18 pm to beerJeep
Posted on 2/18/20 at 2:18 pm to beerJeep
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Plenty of medical colleges do it.
Most of the medical colleges that do it want you to be in a primary care field in a rural parish to have your tuition paid for. There's a need and there are jobs easily available for this.
Same cannot be said for many undergraduate degrees or fields.
Posted on 2/18/20 at 2:21 pm to MintBerry Crunch
I agree there should be a residency requirement. Maybe having to give back half of the tops money if you move out of state. All of it back seems to much (based on nothing but my own feelings on it) but it’s supposed to be an investment in our state but that investment is fleeing as soon as they graduate
Posted on 2/18/20 at 2:31 pm to Displaced
The "educated" youth claims they can solve the world's problems created by "boomers".
Why can't they stay in LA & create new jobs themselves...?
Why can't they stay in LA & create new jobs themselves...?
Posted on 2/18/20 at 2:46 pm to Tigear
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Why can't they stay in LA & create new jobs themselves...?
Do you think that's how things work? You graduate and create a job for yourself?
Jesus.
Posted on 2/18/20 at 3:05 pm to TH03
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Okay boomer.
Hit a little too close to home?
Posted on 2/18/20 at 4:01 pm to TH03
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Do you think that's how things work? You graduate and create a job for yourself?
Jesus.
OR
DON'T graduate & create a job for yourself. 1000s do it every single year.
Posted on 2/18/20 at 4:35 pm to rotrain
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Hit a little too close to home?
No, your stupid off topic rant didn't hit close to home with me at all.
Posted on 2/18/20 at 4:36 pm to Tigear
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DON'T graduate & create a job for yourself. 1000s do it every single year.
How exactly are these jobs just created?
Note: applying for and getting a job with a company isn't "creating a job."
Posted on 2/18/20 at 4:51 pm to fallguy_1978
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Wasn't TOPS really just a shift in the funding mechanism? I believe when I was in college (pre-TOPS) the state paid a greater portion of the tuition. Maybe I'm mistaken. I know tuition when I was at LSU was like $1200-1300/semester.
This is correct and you are not mistaken.
In the late 70s and into the 80s, the cost of in-state tuition was subsidized by the state to the tune of 75%. Thus if you were a Louisiana resident back then, you were only paying around 25% of the actual cost of attending college. It was a great deal and real benefit of being a Louisiana resident; it was doing what in-state tuition in any state is SUPPOSED to do-- help make college education available and affordable for state residents (those who graduated high school in the state).
Problem was, back then ALL state schools had an open admissions policy. Essentially ANYONE who graduated from a Louisiana High School was admitted to LSU, UNO, SLU, etc. The guy who barely graduated with a 1.75 GPA got the same tuition deal as the guy graduating with a 3.45 GPA.
However, the 1.75 GPA crowd had to take remedial courses, and usually flunked out of LSU after partying for a semester or year. Real waste of state resources; that 75% subsidy was poorly spent on those 'students".
State colleges then thankfully eliminated the open admissions policy, and later installed TOPS. Along the way, the funding subsidy went from 75% to 25%. The tuition bill was a lot higher, but for those with decent enough grades and test scores, TOPS would pay up to 100% of tuition and fees, so the subsidy is still there, but at least it is going to those who should be in college.
The other problem is the ridiculous rise in the cost of on-campus room and board, which is over $10,000 per year now.
This post was edited on 2/20/20 at 2:41 pm
Posted on 2/18/20 at 4:54 pm to BRich
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but at least it is going to those who should be in college.
Agree to disagree there.
Posted on 2/18/20 at 5:12 pm to MintBerry Crunch
"The Government is so incompetent!"
"Hey, we should require it to track where 20,000 graduates a year move to!"
This is how you create a 300 person State agency.

"Hey, we should require it to track where 20,000 graduates a year move to!"
This is how you create a 300 person State agency.

This post was edited on 2/18/20 at 5:14 pm
Posted on 2/18/20 at 5:13 pm to MintBerry Crunch
I agree. I’ve said this for years. Why should taxpayers pay for you to go to college just to move to Texas or Alabama?
Posted on 2/18/20 at 6:11 pm to Displaced
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Because often times the job market does not support that premise.
Signed,
2010 graduate
Signed 2001 graduate
Posted on 2/18/20 at 6:35 pm to CapperVin
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Wonder why this entitlement program is praised by the right wing loons?
In 1997, House Bill 2154 was signed into law by Governor Mike Foster(R); this bill created TOPS, which was then known as the Tuition Opportunity Program for Students.
Posted on 2/18/20 at 6:45 pm to MintBerry Crunch
Are there enough jobs in Louisiana to preserve the graduate base?
Posted on 2/18/20 at 6:45 pm to lsu13lsu
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the jobs are not here for college grads then maybe we should be putting more people into trade school instead of college.
Tops covers technical college as well. Public schools only though.
https://www.osfa.la.gov/tops_tech.html
Posted on 2/18/20 at 6:53 pm to Oilfieldbiology
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However the TOPS program, according to their website, was founded to fund the college education of high achieving, low income students first.
This is dead on balls accurate. But white middle class people in this state will never admit it. Pat Taylor created this to benefit academically qualified kids from impoverished backgrounds.
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