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Posted on 2/18/20 at 9:33 am to lsu13lsu
quote:
How long does someone need to live here to get it?
Short answer = last two years of high school.
long answer = https://www.osfa.la.gov/MainSitePDFs/TOPS_Q_and_A.pdf
quote:
RESIDENCY REQUIREMENT
Q-172. What is the Louisiana residency requirement?
A. Any independent or dependent student who actually resides in Louisiana while attending his last two full years at an eligible Louisiana high school and graduates from such a school will meet the Louisiana
residency requirement. Your high school transcript must reflect that you earned credit for the last four
semesters of high school and graduated from an approved Louisiana high school. This information is
reported by the high school using the Department of Education’s Student Transcript System.
You may qualify based on the residency of a parent or court ordered custodian (“legal guardian”) who
was a legal resident of Louisiana for at least the 24 months prior to the month of your high school
graduation. If you are an independent student, you may also qualify based on you having been a legal
resident of Louisiana for at least the 24 months prior to the month of your high school graduation.
If you are a dependent student and your parent is a member of the U.S. Armed Forces living in Louisiana
under permanent change of station orders, but who does not claim Louisiana as his official state of legal
residence, and you actually reside in Louisiana while attending your last two full years at an eligible
Louisiana high school and you graduate from such a school, and your transcript reflects that you earned
credit for the last four semesters of high school and graduated from an approved Louisiana high school,
you will meet the Louisiana residency requirement
Posted on 2/18/20 at 9:35 am to MintBerry Crunch
because the program was originally designed to keep students in LA......
Posted on 2/18/20 at 9:35 am to ashy larry
quote:
How long does someone need to live here to get it?
quote:
Short answer = last two years of high school.
That is insane.
This post was edited on 2/18/20 at 10:37 am
Posted on 2/18/20 at 10:05 am to Salmon
quote:Agree with raising the requirements. But I don't think the residency would be all that hard to track if they wanted to have a post-TOPS residency requirement. Just require recipients to send in proof they filed a Louisiana tax return every year for the duration of the residency requirement.
I feel like this would be difficult to track or pretty easy to get around
The simplest solution is to just raise the requirements. It is not a difficult fix.
I think the residency requirement is a good idea though. Louisiana taxpayers shouldn't be subsidizing college for students who are bolting for other states right after they graduate. That's a terrible return on investment for LA taxpayers.
Make it 4-5 year residency requirement and treat TOPS like a student loan that 20-25% of gets forgiven for each year the recipient remains an LA resident after finishing school. If the residency requirement is 4 years and you move to Texas after 2 years, you repay 50% of the TOPS benefits.
Posted on 2/18/20 at 10:09 am to TH03
quote:
Yeah why actually try to get your shite together as a state to entice people to stay and work when you can just big government the frick out of it and make it mandatory
You’re actually trying to make this a big government small government argument, when tops is one of the biggest government programs that exists in the state?
The whole reason you educate Louisianians is to have educated Louisianians. It’s not to have educated people moving out of your state.
If you want to move after college, then you should pay for your education. Don’t get mad at me because you are a welfare queen.
This post was edited on 2/18/20 at 10:14 am
Posted on 2/18/20 at 10:10 am to Displaced
The job market didn’t support that premise anywhere in 2010. Signed, reality.
Posted on 2/18/20 at 10:11 am to yaboidarrell
Then create a job or stop paying for TOPS.
Posted on 2/18/20 at 10:11 am to MintBerry Crunch
This thread has been posted on this board at least ten times
Posted on 2/18/20 at 10:14 am to MintBerry Crunch
Wasn't TOPS really just a shift in the funding mechanism? I believe when I was in college (pre-TOPS) the state paid a greater portion of the tuition. Maybe I'm mistaken. I know tuition when I was at LSU was like $1200-1300/semester.
Posted on 2/18/20 at 10:14 am to NolaTiger52
It’s probably because it’s shitty policy and it needs to be changed.
Posted on 2/18/20 at 10:35 am to NolaTiger52
quote:
This thread has been posted on this board at least ten times
It will continue to be posted until a change is made. It is has become a stupid program. With some changes it could be a better program. With no changes people will continue calling it out, as they should.
Posted on 2/18/20 at 11:02 am to MintBerry Crunch
People on this board are typically quick to tie welfare to work requirements and drug testing. What if we mandated drug testing and made students work 15-20 hrs/per week to receive TOPS? (Easily doable. I came along before TOPS and regularly worked 30-40 hour weeks to pay tuition.)
What if we made them work at govt jobs like the DMV or DOTD? More people to clean culverts or wait on you at the DMV counter.
What if we made them work at govt jobs like the DMV or DOTD? More people to clean culverts or wait on you at the DMV counter.
Posted on 2/18/20 at 11:16 am to MintBerry Crunch
Wonder why this entitlement program is praised by the right wing loons?
Posted on 2/18/20 at 11:52 am to MintBerry Crunch
eh, maybe incur a penalty but you cant stop people from leaving especially if the job prospects arent there
Posted on 2/18/20 at 11:54 am to MintBerry Crunch
It’s not the graduate’s fault that Louisiana has no jobs forcing them to leave the state to find work.
Posted on 2/18/20 at 11:57 am to jbgleason
I actually thought that at first too. However the TOPS program, according to their website, was founded to fund the college education of high achieving, low income students first.
The government took it over and turned it into a vote farming program basically giving free money to anyone with a pulse that graduates highschool and free money to any and all of the numerous 4 year state institutions.
Nobody wants to end the gravy train in the government and that’s the problem.
The government took it over and turned it into a vote farming program basically giving free money to anyone with a pulse that graduates highschool and free money to any and all of the numerous 4 year state institutions.
Nobody wants to end the gravy train in the government and that’s the problem.
This post was edited on 2/18/20 at 11:59 am
Posted on 2/18/20 at 11:59 am to CapperVin
quote:
Wonder why this entitlement program is praised by the right wing loons?
Because right wingers have kids going to college and they basically see it as a tax refund.
Posted on 2/18/20 at 12:01 pm to MintBerry Crunch
quote:
when tops is one of the biggest government programs that exists in the state?
One that is a good idea and would work incredibly well if the state didn't try to make it stand on its own.
"Okay, we've educated our population, what's next?"
The answer Louisiana should have: we've created/are creating all of these jobs in a variety of different industries in order to line our graduates up for success and in turn receive a return on our tuition investment.
The answer Louisiana gives: eh, we could've had X company move their HQ here and create x thousand jobs, but their board wouldn't pay my finder's fee on my BILs plot of land, so I told them to kick rocks.
It's amazing what Louisiana could become without a completely inept/corrupt government at nearly every level.
Posted on 2/18/20 at 12:03 pm to Suntiger
Could You imagine how productive those government agencies could be if they weren’t staffed with career government employees?
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