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re: Why isn't Louisiana an agricultural powerhouse?
Posted on 1/19/22 at 9:19 pm to HighlyFavoredTiger
Posted on 1/19/22 at 9:19 pm to HighlyFavoredTiger
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he said that his dad and grandpa had got offers through the area county extension office to receive government payments to NOT plant certain crops. I don’t know how much of that goes on now but it apparently paid more than getting up at 4:30 and heading to the fields to ride a tractor all day.
It happens a lot. It's the Fed's that pay farmers not to plant.
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Posted on 1/19/22 at 9:20 pm to PillPusher
quote:this is the american dream
Because, at least in NE LA, people die and their heirs don’t want to farm. And instead turn land that was giving 3 bales of cotton/acre into trees. Because they are lazy and the government paid them to do so.
Posted on 1/19/22 at 9:37 pm to ozktgr
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lack of forage for cattle doesn't help.
We get 60" of rain a year. The only reason we have a "lack of forage" is because of poor management of forage.
Most pastures in Louisiana are overgrazed to hell because most cattle producers lack a basic understanding of forage management and stocking rates.
Posted on 1/19/22 at 9:40 pm to La Place Mike
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It's the Fed's that pay farmers not to plant.
Yeah, because farmers voluntarily sign up land that probably should have never been farmed to begin with.
It always amazes me how federal programs like CRP and WRP get bad raps because people don't understand how they work.
FedGov isn't holding a gun to anyone's head and telling them not to farm that land. It's quite the contrary--those farmers and landowners come knocking on the door wanting to take that land out of production.
Posted on 1/19/22 at 9:41 pm to turnpiketiger
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Those people can grow literally anything due to their climate.
They can't do it without water coming from other states, though.
Posted on 1/19/22 at 9:42 pm to Limitlesstigers
There is a finite amount of land appropriate for agriculture in what amounts to a relatively small state.
Posted on 1/19/22 at 9:45 pm to loogaroo
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We built a 560/ac solar farm on the most fertile land in North America.
How long does it take to grow a solar panel after you plant the seed
Posted on 1/19/22 at 10:48 pm to Cowboyfan89
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Yeah, because farmers voluntarily sign up land that probably should have never been farmed to begin with.
Not the case with my family's land.
Posted on 1/19/22 at 11:02 pm to Limitlesstigers
It’s sobering to think how little land in the entire world is suitable for agricultural production.
Posted on 1/19/22 at 11:13 pm to PillPusher
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Because, at least in NE LA, people die and their heirs don’t want to farm. And instead turn land that was giving 3 bales of cotton/acre into trees. Because they are lazy and the government paid them to do so
If I owned three bale cotton ground, I’d be renting that out not planting trees on it.
Posted on 1/19/22 at 11:26 pm to Limitlesstigers
the dumbest, most corrupt state isn't going to excel at much
Posted on 1/19/22 at 11:37 pm to Limitlesstigers
Alluvial soils along the Mississippi, Atchafalaya, Red rivers are the most fertile soils. Forest in other areas of the state is/was a big industry. Florida parishes’ soils are not great for agronomic crops. The climate is also conducive to pretty much all insects and diseases that affect the major crops we can grow (corn, soybeans, cotton). Our climate is too hot for wheat, other than a small amount of winter wheat grown in a few areas.
Posted on 1/20/22 at 12:32 am to Limitlesstigers
Levees prevented property damage from flooding, but those annual floods also naturally irrigated and enriched the soil. Basically, the levees greatly reduced the agricultural yields in the delta. In addition, erosion destroyed large swathes of land that used to cultivate citris.
Posted on 1/20/22 at 3:46 am to La Place Mike
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Not the case with my family's land.
Your family would be the first one I've ever heard on that was forced to not farm, unless it was a compliance issue. And even then it's only "forced" if you want to participate in USDA programs.
Unless of course you were referring to the "never should have been farmed" part. If that's the case, if it qualified for one of those programs, it was either a wetland or other susceptible ground that was probably better off not being farmed. Those programs have very specific criteria to qualify.
This post was edited on 1/20/22 at 5:17 am
Posted on 1/20/22 at 4:37 am to AutoYes_Clown
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Not knowing much about Ag, Minnesota is another surprise.
Think of southern Minnesota as an extension of Iowa. Massive producer of corn, soybeans, and hogs.
Posted on 1/20/22 at 5:51 am to Tchefuncte Tiger
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They can't do it without water coming from other states, though.
This is true. Water conservation is a huge issue over there. Is crazy to think about.
Posted on 1/20/22 at 5:54 am to AutoYes_Clown
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Minnesota is another surprise.
Minnesota has a lot of livestock especially turkey, chickens and swine. Southern part of the state has corn and soybeans.
Posted on 1/20/22 at 5:59 am to Limitlesstigers
third world country state government
Posted on 1/20/22 at 6:10 am to Limitlesstigers
The federal government pays people not to farm the land.
Posted on 1/20/22 at 6:14 am to turnpiketiger
i grew up farming rice, a little crawfish and cane. The nutrients that were in the historic prairie soils have essentially been exported as commodities, and now these soils produce competitively only with the use of fossil fuel fertilizers. adjusting from hunter/gatherers to farmers leapt our culture into what it is today, but too much of this method requires "force" with support from technology - forced pest control, forced scaling using heavy machinery, forced irrigation, forced drainage by deepening our streams into nothing more than drainage ditches.
we can return the prairie biomes to rebuild soil, grow grass and harvest as various forms of protein, return our ditches to the ecosystem that is the stream, and add back a major component to the water budget - the ability to store moisture in the soil and soil's root systems. rice and crawfish pond soils where i grew up now are just pathetic sand flats when not flooded. also, what effect do the thousands of acres of ponded surface water in crawfish and rice ponds have on our rainfall cycles? all of this surface freshwater exposed to the sun's heat, easily evaporated to fall later as rain?
anyway rant on[off]. grow grass, harvest protein, hold moisture, eat beef
we can return the prairie biomes to rebuild soil, grow grass and harvest as various forms of protein, return our ditches to the ecosystem that is the stream, and add back a major component to the water budget - the ability to store moisture in the soil and soil's root systems. rice and crawfish pond soils where i grew up now are just pathetic sand flats when not flooded. also, what effect do the thousands of acres of ponded surface water in crawfish and rice ponds have on our rainfall cycles? all of this surface freshwater exposed to the sun's heat, easily evaporated to fall later as rain?
anyway rant on[off]. grow grass, harvest protein, hold moisture, eat beef
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