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Posted on 3/12/20 at 8:13 am to Lsupimp
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Salmon, no need to do the whole phony *Sigh garbage. Compared to you, balsa wood seems formidable. You are Queen of The Shrieking Lightweights. * Sigh as much as you’d like, sweetie.
Posted on 3/12/20 at 8:13 am to IS_IT_GAMEDAY
Most intelligent people, whether they lean right or left, understand a virus is not a political thing.
But to ignore that a certain element views this tragedy as a means to an end, and is thus very happy about it and the economic turmoil it is causing, is showing a lack of common sense.
But to ignore that a certain element views this tragedy as a means to an end, and is thus very happy about it and the economic turmoil it is causing, is showing a lack of common sense.
This post was edited on 3/12/20 at 8:14 am
Posted on 3/12/20 at 8:15 am to Oilfieldbiology
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Why did we need to create three ultra high level positions when we have an entire government entity dedicated to disease control?
CDC is not in the business of government planning. They don't hold sway within any administration. They don't have relationships with Congress to lobby for necessary funds. They don't have a direct line to the President, NSC, DOD, and other major players unless shite is actively hitting the fan.
But, here we go again....another guy defending Trump's poor decisions. Heaven forbid Dear Leader not have someone on some random fricking internet message board anonymously sticking up for him.
Posted on 3/12/20 at 8:16 am to Oilfieldbiology
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No people are being forced too
People are being forced to stay home from work and/or school because otherwise, people would still feel obligated to go. They don't stop going until they are told to stop going.
Posted on 3/12/20 at 8:18 am to NOFOX
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so I am assuming you are saying that my criticism of the lack of testing to date is unwarranted because it would not have mattered? Is that not the case?
Again , your assumption is false and completely resides within the confines of your own mind. In fact, can you point me to a single person that does not favor more testing? Of course we want, need and will receive more testing.
Posted on 3/12/20 at 8:20 am to mmmmmbeeer
It’s literally the center for disease control. It’s in the fricking name. If they aren’t active in planning ways to, I don’t know control the spread of a disease, then why are they government funded?
And trump is not beyond reproach and I’ve never indicated otherwise. But blaming him for this is bullshite, especially when his administration wanted/encouraged people to social distance for 3+ weeks, wanted to suspend trace from infected areas about a month ago, and has repeatedly affirmed that good hygiene is the best way to not catch this.
Should he have opened up funds sooner for more testing? Yes. But other than that, what could the administration do?
And trump is not beyond reproach and I’ve never indicated otherwise. But blaming him for this is bullshite, especially when his administration wanted/encouraged people to social distance for 3+ weeks, wanted to suspend trace from infected areas about a month ago, and has repeatedly affirmed that good hygiene is the best way to not catch this.
Should he have opened up funds sooner for more testing? Yes. But other than that, what could the administration do?
Posted on 3/12/20 at 8:21 am to Lsupimp
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Again , your assumption is false and completely resides within the confines of your own mind. In fact, can you point me to a single person that does not favor more testing? Of course we want, need and will receive more testing.
Again, go back to the post. The question was what could have been done with more testing and a suggestion that more testing wouldn’t have done anything. You jumped into the conversation.
There should have been more testing from the start correct? The government fricked that up royally correct?
Posted on 3/12/20 at 8:21 am to N2cars
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But to ignore that a certain element views this tragedy as a means to an end, and is thus very happy about it and the economic turmoil it is causing, is showing a lack of common sense.
And on the other hand, some could look at this as an opportunity for a President to absolutely shine. I mean, Dubya was over 90% national job approval after 9/11 because he took a tough situation and fricking shined. He was a leader. He offered calm. He offered encouragement. He offered leadership. He offered accountability. He truly did a helluva job in the months after 9/11.
Unfortunately, some people just don't have the ability to shine during crisis so they blame the media and political punditry for highlighting their own shortcomings. Pretty sad.
Posted on 3/12/20 at 8:23 am to mmmmmbeeer
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He was a leader. He offered calm. He offered encouragement. He offered leadership. He offered accountability. He truly did a helluva job in the months after 9/11.
Because it was planned #jetfuelcantmeltsteel
That’s sarcasm by the way
Posted on 3/12/20 at 8:24 am to Oilfieldbiology
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Should he have opened up funds sooner for more testing? Yes. But other than that, what could the administration do?
Instructed the FDA to give the green light to private labs to create their own tests prior to March 1st?
Especially knowing how badly the CDC had fricked up with their test kits.
This post was edited on 3/12/20 at 8:25 am
Posted on 3/12/20 at 8:24 am to 1BamaRTR
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Because the media politicizes everything
Seems like Trump did a good job politicizing this first when he said "Fake News Media,' Democrats working to 'inflame the CoronaVirus situation'
Posted on 3/12/20 at 8:25 am to NOFOX
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Instructed the FDA to give the green light to private labs to create their own tests prior to March 1st?
Exactly, but no, he was convinced the flu shot would work. Narcissistic idiot.
Posted on 3/12/20 at 8:26 am to NOFOX
Why can private labs not make a test on their own? Why do they need instruction from the FDA to do so?
Posted on 3/12/20 at 8:27 am to IS_IT_GAMEDAY
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Why is this virus being politicized?
All I know is, if the citizens of this great country petitioned for the cancellation of the Presidential election to automatically awarded the victory to the greatest president of my lifetime, Donald J. TRUMP,
that virus would be history within 24 hrs.
Posted on 3/12/20 at 8:28 am to The Spleen
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Yeah, I can’t recall a single administration having to immediately cleanup 3 inaccurate statements in an...blah blah blah.
But it’s just the media being unfair to Trump. Or maybe it’s because this president is a walking gaffe that spews...blah blah blah.
Dude just stop. Stop it.
Yeah, Trump is a part of the problem (and not just regarding the Coronavirus but of the shite situation society has been swirling down into since 2001), but *trigger alert* YOU are just as much a part of that problem- as am I. But regarding who's most at fault, especially for the currently-increasing rate of societal meltdown: It's people like you and the people like the, "muh conspiracy" crowd that are MOST at fault.
You are sheeple. You are cattle- cattle following your little trusted saviours into the slaughter pen where you thought they'd bring you the land of milk and honey. You poor little things on the extremes think that one man or woman in an oval office and a handful up on a hill where a capital is located can change Providence? Can save the world? Can manage 330 million people effectively and all at once? All I can do is laugh about it because it's so pitiful.
To be fair, the, "muh media" people are basing their bias off the most accurate information at hand: The mainstream media and social media alike have poisoned society; to deny this is outright lunacy. But sheeple like you will: You're akin to a nest full of chicks taking in what momma media regurgitates into your mouths (or in this case, your shriveled little minds) to sustain you and your pitiful existence where you've zero self-identity: You live and die by the screen that tells you what others are doing and saying. Essentially, your problem is that you need to get a life- your own life.
Just like I said in the Coronavirus thread: Per usual, throughout history, it'll be the free-thinking, strong-minded men and women who will restore order to this mess, and those people will come from the middle of the spectrum on where they stand- people unlike yourself.
Reason and logic and truth are the "tortoise" in the race, and *spoiler alert* the tortoise wins the race every time. EVERY time. People like yourself- people who stand on the graves of those who came before you and what they did to progress Western civilization to its peak thus far in history as well as the ones who are working for it now- ought to be ashamed...but we all know you're not: Any human that can, with a straight face, stand on the graves of the dead (and the living alike) who did, are, and will suffer to give back more than what they took is not only a hypocrite, but a miraculous escapee from the claws of natural selection; because they're not very cognizant of their surroundings.
We got it: You hate Trump, you'll hound the son of a bitch until he's either dead or voted out, and you and your ilk will take down any-and-everybody else and thing down with the ship- INCLUDING your integrity and what's left of your logic and country. The same will apply from the other side if Uh-Oh-Joe gets elected.
So just shut up already with your Twitter-sourced, "blue check mark", mostly feeling based opinion, you broken f*cking record. We all heard your shite hot-take talking points the first 100 times, now give the mic back.
Posted on 3/12/20 at 8:28 am to Oilfieldbiology
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Why can private labs not make a test on their own? Why do they need instruction from the FDA to do so?
They need FDA approval to launch a test. It wasn’t until March 1st that FDA said they would waive regulatory review for coronavirus tests.
Labcorp launched theirs on March 6, Quest on March 9.
This post was edited on 3/12/20 at 8:30 am
Posted on 3/12/20 at 8:30 am to Lsupimp
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any response that is SUBSTANTIVE
You ask for this, but then throw this out there...
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your usage of the term “ Racistsexisthomophobe (!!!).
..when I haven't used any of those words in this thread. You are a clown, but I'm in a good mood this morning and will engage with you. So, here are the 3 things he said in his PREPARED remarks that the WH had to almost immediately clean up for him.
1. All cargo from Europe was being halted for 30 days. This is the one that sent the futures market plummeting.
2. All travel from Europe was being halted for 30 days. This actually only applied to foreign nationals. Can you imagine the panic of US citizens traveling in Europe right now if they were tuning in to this address? It certainly would have freaked me out.
3. Insurance companies would waive all copays on corona virus treatment. Not sure if the WH actually cleaned this one up, but several insurance companies have since come out saying only testing for it would have waived copays.
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Democrats will at least consider cooperation and unity.
Funny you say that, because about 30 minutes after his address where he called for unity, he Tweeted out an attack on Nancy Pelosi.
Also, I don't expect the president, any president, to fully contain a virus outbreak like this. That's a ridiculous and impossible expectation. I do expect a president to have competent staff in place to combat an outbreak like this, and I expect a president to be honest with his/her citizens about the situation. This administration so far has met neither of those expectations.
Posted on 3/12/20 at 8:34 am to mmmmmbeeer
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Is it party or is it performance? Have you ever stopped to think that maybe it's the latter?
That's absolutely laughable. All Democratic Executive branch responses are BY DEFINITION "brave, confident, responsible, wise, masterful" etc.
All Republican Executive branch responses are "racist, sexist, homophobic, xenophobic" etc. With Republicans they rarely if ever even bother with anything beyond your beloved Progressive "he's an Orange Xenophobe" trope.
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