- My Forums
- Tiger Rant
- LSU Recruiting
- SEC Rant
- Saints Talk
- Pelicans Talk
- More Sports Board
- Coaching Changes
- Fantasy Sports
- Golf Board
- Soccer Board
- O-T Lounge
- Tech Board
- Home/Garden Board
- Outdoor Board
- Health/Fitness Board
- Movie/TV Board
- Book Board
- Music Board
- Political Talk
- Money Talk
- Fark Board
- Gaming Board
- Travel Board
- Food/Drink Board
- Ticket Exchange
- TD Help Board
Customize My Forums- View All Forums
- Show Left Links
- Topic Sort Options
- Trending Topics
- Recent Topics
- Active Topics
Started By
Message
re: Why is there a nationwide staffing shortage for so many occupations?
Posted on 6/21/22 at 10:11 am to Horsemeat
Posted on 6/21/22 at 10:11 am to Horsemeat
quote:
rucking: There is no driver shortage - what there actually is can be called a 'respect shortage' by the companies that hire/train new cdl drivers
I'm told the Market will work itself out and fix the problem. I guess that means either companies will pay and give more respect to drivers, speed up the push for trucking automation, or create more drivers to support the demand.
I've got no solution to offer because that's not my industry and I'm not about to armchair quarterback.
0
Posted on 6/21/22 at 10:15 am to Dire Wolf
The unemployment numbers are only those who are collecting unemployment benefits. How many people are unemployed and have exhausted their benefits ? It's certainly more than 3.6%.
Posted on 6/21/22 at 10:15 am to Dire Wolf
Double post
This post was edited on 6/21/22 at 10:16 am
Posted on 6/21/22 at 10:17 am to Dire Wolf
quote:
Unemployment is still as low as it has been since 2000
A quote straight from the Bureau of Labor Statistics. You are using an incorrect formula for various reasons.
Some people think that to get these figures on unemployment, the government uses the
number of people collecting unemployment insurance (UI) benefits under state or federal
government programs. But some people are still jobless when their benefits run out, and
2
many more are not eligible at all or delay or never apply for benefits. So, quite clearly, UI
information cannot be used as a source for complete information on the number of
unemployed.
Posted on 6/21/22 at 10:19 am to GetCocky11
quote:Cut off all unemployment checks. Lazy bastards. Not enough good jobs? You take a job, prove what you can do and hopefully get promoted to a higher position. At the same time (while working at the current job), you can also actively look for better opportunities.
not enough good jobs were not available to return to work.
Say what you want, but these are the type of people that quit one job before they secure the next job.
In 2008, when the real estate market went to hell in a hand basket, my pay went from 100K to 30K. Thankfully, I was debt free and single. I lived out of savings acct for 18 months until I found the right employment opportunity to make a career move. I passed up several job opportunities, stayed on board until the right one came along.
That was a long 18 months.
Posted on 6/21/22 at 10:21 am to Joshjrn
quote:
But some of the people who died clearly were part of the workforce. So shouldn’t we be dickering over how many people that was and not just scoffing at the cause?
Is it a material amount to cause the labor shortage were seeing? I'd argue no, certainly when you take demographics into consideration
This post was edited on 6/21/22 at 10:22 am
Posted on 6/21/22 at 10:22 am to Supermoto Tiger
quote:
Cut off all unemployment checks.
Why? Every paycheck you've ever gotten has paid into it. You trying to just donate that to the government should you ever lose your job?
Posted on 6/21/22 at 10:26 am to EF Hutton
quote:
Boomers did not run up any debt.
Posted on 6/21/22 at 10:27 am to gumbeaux
Fresh Grads have this idea that entry level jobs are beneath them. Many of them have the belief that anything not in the boardroom is a failure.
Posted on 6/21/22 at 10:27 am to Mingo Was His NameO
Agreed but we need to find a way to push people back into the market. Higher wages only works for some people
Posted on 6/21/22 at 10:27 am to Joshjrn
quote:
Irrespective of the underlying reason, the death rate in the US went up significantly in the last few years.
Not denying this, but have they actually released those numbers yet? I have seen 2019 was finally made official at just over 2.8M, and 2020 & 2021 were both estimated at 3.4M (~500k more than 2019), but nothing final.
Edit: Just found this detail on CDC's website
quote:
COVID-19, listed as the underlying cause in 415,399 deaths during 2021, ranked as the third leading underlying cause of death after heart disease (693,021 deaths) and cancer (604,553 deaths) (Figure 2). COVID-19 was the underlying cause for 13.3% of all deaths in 2021, increasing from 10.4% (350,831 deaths) in 2020. Unintentional injuries, the fourth leading cause of death in 2020 and 2021, increased from 200,955 in 2020 to 219,487 in 2021. Other leading causes of death maintained the same ranking from 2020 to 2021, except for chronic liver disease and cirrhosis and influenza and pneumonia. Chronic liver disease and cirrhosis, which was not among the 10 leading causes of death in 2020, was the ninth leading cause in 2021 with 56,408 deaths (51,642 deaths in 2020). Influenza and pneumonia, which was the ninth leading cause of death in 2020 (53,544 deaths), dropped out of the 10 leading causes in 2021 (41,835 deaths).
This post was edited on 6/21/22 at 10:34 am
Posted on 6/21/22 at 10:30 am to gumbeaux
Shutdowns, lots of people unemployed, many decided to hold out going to work as long as they can. Its the lower wage jobs that are hit the hardest.
Posted on 6/21/22 at 10:30 am to Cosmo
I wonder what a lot of people do in my part of Houston do for a living when I drive around on Sunday nights and the bars are slammed.
Posted on 6/21/22 at 10:34 am to Joshjrn
quote:
, the death rate in the US went up significantly in the last few years.
Has nothing to do with the labor shortage. The actual working demographics didn't suffer major losses in the USA, and the jobs worked by those who arent working now are those that typically employ lower skilled workers.
Posted on 6/21/22 at 10:37 am to EarlyCuyler3
quote:
When the pandemic hit, prices did not skyrocket. It leveled and dropped. Summer 21 is when shite took off.
Posted on 6/21/22 at 10:38 am to Dire Wolf
quote:
unemployment was 3.6% last month, which is about as low as it can get.
That number is so far from accurate
Posted on 6/21/22 at 10:41 am to Horsemeat
quote:
They are not given wages or benefits that are competitive with the rest of the industry
Not trying to start shite or disagree, just genuinely curious as to what "the rest of the industry is" vis a vis to truck driving.
Posted on 6/21/22 at 10:42 am to Broke
quote:
A quote straight from the Bureau of Labor Statistics. You are using an incorrect formula for various reasons.
Some people think that to get these figures on unemployment, the government uses the
number of people collecting unemployment insurance (UI) b
Here is every measure of unemployment. Every single one is low
U-1 counts only those who have been unemployed for at least 15 weeks, which was traditionally a little longer than the average duration of an unemployment spell. This is considered to exclude short-term unemployment.
U-2 counts those who are unemployed because they have lost a job or completed a temporary job—in other words, workers in a precarious situation in the labor market, as they are more likely to find an unstable or unsatisfying job
U-3 is the headline unemployment rate generally reported in the media: People who are able to work, ready to work, and have looked for work in the past four weeks. This corresponds the most closely to the definition of unemployment we started with.
U-4 is U-3 plus those who would like to work but have stopped looking—the so-called discouraged workers—because they believe there are no jobs for them.
U-5 is U-4 plus those who are marginally attached to the labor market who, for any reason, are no longer searching for work but may still work.
U-6 is U-5 plus those who are working part-time but would prefer to work full-time.
This post was edited on 6/21/22 at 10:45 am
Posted on 6/21/22 at 10:47 am to Tortious
quote:
Not trying to start shite or disagree, just genuinely curious as to what "the rest of the industry is" vis a vis to truck driving.
Good jobs are limited. Good jobs that pay decently are even worse. For every 1 wal-mart driver with a six figure salary, there are 20 drivers that barely make enough to justify the 14 hour days with extended trips away from home.
And then there is the reality of a broker-driven industry. The broker wants his money, and if he has to leave you stranded a thousand miles away from home, he will.
Posted on 6/21/22 at 10:47 am to wadewilson
quote:
For every 1 wal-mart driver with a six figure salary, there are 20 drivers that barely make enough to justify the 14 hour days with extended trips away from home.
Probably more like 70
Page 5 of 7
Popular
Back to top
Follow TigerDroppings for LSU Football News