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Why is the LaDOTD still not embracing the inner loop?
Posted on 4/12/19 at 9:48 am
Posted on 4/12/19 at 9:48 am
Everyone knows that Baton Rouge traffic is a gigantic clusterf**k and it needs many fixes. LaDOTD made a huge mistake when it rejected the BUMP (aka inner loop plan) in 2015. Was it perfect? No it was not. Was it the solution to BR's traffic problems? No it was not, but it could have been a very important part of fixing BR's problems.
It has been three and half years since the inner loop was rejected. There has been a lot of talk about a new bridge and expanding I-10, which are all needed, but why has there been no movement on the easiest and most logical starting point since it is 100% funded by tolls?
It has been three and half years since the inner loop was rejected. There has been a lot of talk about a new bridge and expanding I-10, which are all needed, but why has there been no movement on the easiest and most logical starting point since it is 100% funded by tolls?
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Posted on 4/12/19 at 9:50 am to WeeWee
We get flyovers now bruh
Posted on 4/12/19 at 9:54 am to bluebarracuda
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We get flyovers now bruh
Flyover into standstill traffic is just an elevated parking lot.
Posted on 4/12/19 at 9:59 am to WeeWee
quote:That's pretty much all they do.
LaDOTD made a huge mistake
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...but why has there been no movement on the easiest and most logical starting point since it is 100% funded by tolls?
If we're being honest, it's probably because it's too innovative. They do not like to get outside of their comfort zone. The same can be said for a lot of other entities within the state government.
Posted on 4/12/19 at 10:00 am to WeeWee
No one has the political will to follow through.
Any loop, interior or exterior, requires obtaining right-of-way. That means eminent domain, which means you have rich people lobbying to be bypassed and poor people / minorities claiming persecution because the road is going through their area.
This process is much worse in an interior loop, IMHO, because you are going through already developed areas where people have been for years and who don’t want to go.
Any loop, interior or exterior, requires obtaining right-of-way. That means eminent domain, which means you have rich people lobbying to be bypassed and poor people / minorities claiming persecution because the road is going through their area.
This process is much worse in an interior loop, IMHO, because you are going through already developed areas where people have been for years and who don’t want to go.
Posted on 4/12/19 at 10:03 am to WeeWee
The inner loop is moving forward. Upgrading Airline from the old bridge to Ascension is in the MovEBR plan.
I see that as a big benefit along with the 10 improvements being planned, but it would be even better if a northern by pass from Walker to Airline was included along with a new bridge from around Dow and over to St Gabriel and 10 in Ascension
I see that as a big benefit along with the 10 improvements being planned, but it would be even better if a northern by pass from Walker to Airline was included along with a new bridge from around Dow and over to St Gabriel and 10 in Ascension
Posted on 4/12/19 at 10:06 am to doubleb
has there been any proposal to do to the BR Huey Long Bridge like has happened to the NOLA bridge?
Posted on 4/12/19 at 10:07 am to WeeWee
the solution is to take traffic off of I-10 statewide.
The Zachary Taylor Toll Way is my suggestion. Build a toll road from i-59 near Bogalusa to Vinton crossing the river in St. Fancisville. It would be wildly popular and would take most of the through trucks off of I-10.
We could then build two North/South connecting toll roads---one east of Baton Rouge and one just west that would make a square around Baton Rouge connecting I-10 and the toll way.
Just an idea.
The Zachary Taylor Toll Way is my suggestion. Build a toll road from i-59 near Bogalusa to Vinton crossing the river in St. Fancisville. It would be wildly popular and would take most of the through trucks off of I-10.
We could then build two North/South connecting toll roads---one east of Baton Rouge and one just west that would make a square around Baton Rouge connecting I-10 and the toll way.
Just an idea.
This post was edited on 4/12/19 at 10:09 am
Posted on 4/12/19 at 10:07 am to Grit-Eating Shin
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If we're being honest, it's probably because it's too innovative. They do not like to get outside of their comfort zone. The same can be said for a lot of other entities within the state government.
Louisiana gonna Louisiana. I should submit a proposal for a $100 million study on figuring out how to fix the stupidity in the LaDOTD.
Posted on 4/12/19 at 10:12 am to teke184
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This process is much worse in an interior loop, IMHO, because you are going through already developed areas where people have been for years and who don’t want to go.
Read the BUMP plan. There is already a 200ft to 300ft right of way along most of the Airline highway corridor. They proposed building an elevated highway in the areas where there was not enough existing ROW to build the express way and frontage roads. The only ROW that would be needed to acquire would be through farm land on the west bank to connect US-190 to I-10.
Posted on 4/12/19 at 10:14 am to doubleb
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The inner loop is moving forward. Upgrading Airline from the old bridge to Ascension is in the MovEBR plan.
I think they are widening it to 8 lanes.
I don’t know if they are building overpasses over the rail lines or eliminating some traffic lights. They need to do both of those.
Posted on 4/12/19 at 10:15 am to WeeWee
For the same reason the real inner loop was never completed.
Burbank, Seigen, Sherwood, Florida, cut through garden district/downtown to Nicholson.
Burbank, Seigen, Sherwood, Florida, cut through garden district/downtown to Nicholson.
Posted on 4/12/19 at 10:15 am to teke184
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This process is much worse in an interior loop, IMHO, because you are going through already developed areas where people have been for years and who don’t want to go.
True, but US190/61 already has a massive chunk of right of way already.
This post was edited on 4/12/19 at 10:16 am
Posted on 4/12/19 at 10:21 am to I B Freeman
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the solution is to take traffic off of I-10 statewide.
The Zachary Taylor Toll Way is my suggestion. Build a toll road from i-59 near Bogalusa to Vinton crossing the river in St. Fancisville. It would be wildly popular and would take most of the through trucks off of I-10.
We could then build two North/South connecting toll roads---one east of Baton Rouge and one just west that would make a square around Baton Rouge connecting I-10 and the toll way.
Just an idea.
Not a bad idea. A little too extensive, but the same principle should be used. Expand I-12 to three lanes from the MS/LA border to Hammond, then put toll lanes in the median of I-55. Connect I-55 to the Audubon bridge, then connect the Audubon bridge back to US-190, use US-190 as expressway to Opelousas then put toll lanes in the median of I-49 to reconnect to I-10 in Lafayette. That would create a northern bypass for Baton Rouge and the Basin bridge. BR will still need an inner loop though.
Posted on 4/12/19 at 10:23 am to doubleb
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The inner loop is moving forward. Upgrading Airline from the old bridge to Ascension is in the MovEBR plan.
Are they removing the redlights and separating the grade at railroad crossings? If not then it is useless.
ETA: Go to Miami and check out their toll road system. It is not perfect and there is still traffic because the great citizens of la república popular democrática del norte de cuba are worse drivers than La drivers, but it is a billion times better than BR and is a good blueprint to follow.
This post was edited on 4/12/19 at 10:26 am
Posted on 4/12/19 at 10:27 am to vl100butch
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has there been any proposal to do to the BR Huey Long Bridge like has happened to the NOLA bridge?
There is no need. The bridge already has 11 foot lanes and it does not get the traffic volume to justify a billion dollar overhaul. The only thing it needs is the road deck expanded to give the bridge shoulders.
Posted on 4/12/19 at 10:31 am to WeeWee
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Was it perfect? No it was not. Was it the solution to BR's traffic problems? No it was not
Posted on 4/12/19 at 10:38 am to WeeWee
quote:Airline Highway needs to be elevated over or pass under 1. Old Hammond Hwy, 2. Sherwood Forest Blvd, 3. Highland Road, 4. Old Perkins, and 5. Hwy 42. Maybe not necessarily the same size as over Florida Blvd with a 4 leaf clover design, but in a similar way. That would do fricking wonders to traffic at rush hour! If you had Airline Hwy flowing that great, you would take 1/2 the traffic off of I-10 in the mornings and evenings.
Are they removing the redlights
The normal 4 way traffic signals worked for Baton Rouge up to the 70's. It's obvious that the population has outgrown that design. Especially progressively moving east (southbound on Airline).
Posted on 4/12/19 at 10:38 am to WeeWee
BUMP
Posted on 4/12/19 at 10:43 am to WeeWee
This was the only plan I ever thought was doable. The space is already there and it makes sense.
I think the big problem with it is that it makes too much sense.
I think the big problem with it is that it makes too much sense.
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