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Why is Prime Minister Tojo and the Japanese ignored for their atrocities?

Posted on 12/17/20 at 10:13 am
Posted by BugAC
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Posted on 12/17/20 at 10:13 am
The Japanese were every bit as brutal and sadistic as the Nazis during WW2 (known as the 15 years war in Japan). Their Prime Minister, Tojo, utilized the Kenpetai (spelling?) as their gestapo, and even admired Germany's brutality in the war. The Japanese conducted experiments on it's own people and mainly the Chinese. Unit 731 was their experimental group. They forced sex between prisoners (Mostly CHinese) to see the effects of spreading venereal diseases. They then vivisected them while they were alive to see the gradual affects of the diseases. They released plagues on the chinese via infected insects and dropped them onto civilian populations. They froze body parts of prisoners while they were alive to test the effects of hypothermia and frostbite. They tested out weapons on live prisoners. Burned people alive, buried people alive, sewed people together. They were horrific in their torture.

They also had no concept of surrender, so they killed or mutilated most POW's. The Emperor of Japan, who gets a pass for some reason, was believed to give the order in Saipan, that every citizen should commit suicide because the Americans were going to do much worse to them.

Post War, Tojo attempted to kill himself but missed his heart. He was taken to a hospital, given a transfusion, and kept alive. His teeth were nearly rotted out of his head, and he needed an interpreter to understand what he was saying. American doctors gave him a set of dentures, but inscribed on them, in morse code "remember Pearl Harbor". The Americans utilized the data from the Japanese experiments on live subjects, to advance some of the knowledge about what we know today on things such as forstbite.

There's a really good podcast called Real Dictators and there are 3 episodes on Tojo. Very good production value.

Real Dictators

Unit 731
Posted by jlovel7
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Posted on 12/17/20 at 10:14 am to
They got nuked.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 12/17/20 at 10:14 am to
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Why is Prime Minister Tojo and the Japanese ignored for their atrocities?


Are they?
Posted by LB84
Member since May 2016
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Posted on 12/17/20 at 10:16 am to
Cause this is the 21st century.

Straight white men bad no matter what.

Anyone other than straight white men good no matter what.

Get with the rhetoric.
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
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Posted on 12/17/20 at 10:17 am to
Because over the past decade or so there has been a quiet effort to demonize the United States for dropping the bombs. This goes hand-in-hand with minimizing Japan's actions during the war. This effort isn't always blatant or obvious, but it is happening.
Posted by Old Money
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Posted on 12/17/20 at 10:18 am to
Honest question: Do you think we would hear abut them more if the Japanese did these atrocities on Jewish people instead of the Chinese?

Posted by BugAC
St. George
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Posted on 12/17/20 at 10:18 am to
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Are they?


Comparatively speaking, Germany, Russia, and China get the spotlight in terms of the people they brutalized. Japan is often overlooked. Sure their savagery in battle has been published, but their experimentation on other Asian peoples are largely unknown by most.
Posted by CatfishJohn
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Posted on 12/17/20 at 10:18 am to
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Honest question: Do you think we would hear abut them more if the Japanese did these atrocities on Jewish people instead of the Chinese?



Yes.
Posted by OldmanBeasley
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Posted on 12/17/20 at 10:18 am to
I don’t think they’re ignored, but here in the States they take a back seat to the nazis because most of their atrocities were inflicted upon the Chinese and other Asians which wasn’t as personal and as relatable as the Nazi victims
Posted by AlxTgr
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Posted on 12/17/20 at 10:18 am to
Because he never made it to Darwin.
Posted by The Boat
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Posted on 12/17/20 at 10:19 am to
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(Mostly CHinese)

You answered your own question

I don’t think anyone who knows anything ignores the Japanese crimes during WWII

But the public doesn’t care because they haven’t been conditioned to care because the Japanese didn’t systematically attack Jews. And no one cares about killing Chinese. Same reason no one cares about Mao.
Posted by VolsOut4Harambe
Atlanta, GA
Member since Sep 2017
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Posted on 12/17/20 at 10:19 am to
I'm fairly certain this is a misperception. The Nanking Massacre is definitely not ignored.
Posted by Salmon
On the trails
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Posted on 12/17/20 at 10:20 am to
Jews vs Chinese

Posted by Champagne
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Posted on 12/17/20 at 10:20 am to
Japan actively defends its own national honor, and does so actively and unashamedly. Japan defends its own national self-interests.
Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 12/17/20 at 10:21 am to
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I don’t think they’re ignored, but here in the States they take a back seat to the nazis because most of their atrocities were inflicted upon the Chinese and other Asians which wasn’t as personal and as relatable as the Nazi victims



That makes sense. But Mao Zedong and Pol Pot and their atrocities are more widely recognized than Tojo.
Posted by Wtodd
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Member since Oct 2013
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Posted on 12/17/20 at 10:21 am to
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Why is Prime Minister Tojo and the Japanese ignored for their atrocities?

Bc there aren't any black Japs
This post was edited on 12/17/20 at 10:26 am
Posted by TheHarahanian
Actually not Harahan as of 6/2023
Member since May 2017
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Posted on 12/17/20 at 10:22 am to

Tojo wanted to off himself, was denied that opportunity, was then sentenced to death and hung. Nobody ignored what he did.
Posted by The Boat
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Posted on 12/17/20 at 10:22 am to
It’s funny that in everyone’s attempt to not be racist by remembering the Holocaust they’re being racist AF by forgetting the Chinese genocide because Chinese people aren’t white so they haven’t been told to remember the Chinese.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 12/17/20 at 10:22 am to
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Comparatively speaking, Germany, Russia, and China get the spotlight in terms of the people they brutalized. Japan is often overlooked. Sure their savagery in battle has been published, but their experimentation on other Asian peoples are largely unknown by most.



I always think of Germany and Japan as 1 and 1a in terms of atrocities related to WW2, but maybe that's just me.
Posted by BugAC
St. George
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Posted on 12/17/20 at 10:22 am to
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Japan actively defends its own national honor, and does so actively and unashamedly. Japan defends its own national self-interests.



While true, it is noted that Tojo is largely ignored in their history books.
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