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re: Why is it so hard for most people to lose weight?

Posted on 7/22/18 at 2:57 pm to
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
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Posted on 7/22/18 at 2:57 pm to
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Over 40 or so, eating earlier does help digestion and absorbtion.


No it doesn't.
Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
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Posted on 7/22/18 at 3:33 pm to
That whole "eat less and get off of your lazy arse" part is a struggle for most these days.
This post was edited on 7/22/18 at 3:39 pm
Posted by SteveLSU35
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Posted on 7/22/18 at 3:38 pm to
Cookie cake is delicious
Posted by SECdragonmaster
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Posted on 7/22/18 at 3:40 pm to
Without reading 10 pages -

It’s because it’s the only problem out there where people start the corrective action with plans to have “cheat days”.

No one says “I am going to stop heroin on 6 days of the week but on Sundays, I can use”.

If you are fat - make a change for the rest of your life. No exceptions or cheating.
Posted by celltech1981
Member since Jul 2014
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Posted on 7/22/18 at 3:54 pm to
It's easy to say it's because somebody is lazy but that isn't always the case. there are plenty of people who work really hard to lose weight but don't understand the importance of diet or just don't know enough about it to make a real difference. they end up frustrated after a couple months of not losing and then are back to eating bugles dipped in cheeze wiz for breakfast. lots of poor fat people don't know how to cook healthy meals and can't afford to buy healthy meals. it isn't always laziness. yeah, all the info is on their smart phone but not everybody knowns how to research. if college taught me anything it was how to research.
Posted by olgoi khorkhoi
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Posted on 7/22/18 at 4:14 pm to
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These are literally all just different methods of maintaining a deficit. Eat less often, guess what? You’re probably eating less calories. Eat less calorie dense items, guess what? You’re at a deficit.



You don’t need a calorie deficit. If you feed your body what it needs, you can not eat too much. Body weight is regulated by hormones. Normalize the hormones and avoid foods that screw with them and calorie counting is a thing of the past.

It’s what you eat and when you eat, not how much you eat (as long as you’re getting enough).
Posted by Antonio Moss
The South
Member since Mar 2006
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Posted on 7/22/18 at 4:15 pm to
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These are literally all just different methods of maintaining a deficit.


Meh.

The body processes carbohydrates differently that it processes fats and proteins.

Sure, calorie deficits cause weight loss. But trying to use a calorie deficit when 50-60% of your calories are from carbohydrates is going to be a slow and painful process.

The FDA really fricked this all up when they came out with the food pyramid. For overall health, including weight loss, your diet should be overwhelmingly proteins and fats. The U.S. obesity crisis is a direct result of high-carbohydrate diets.
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
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Posted on 7/22/18 at 4:19 pm to
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You don’t need a calorie deficit


That's quite literally all you need.

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If you feed your body what it needs, you can not eat too much


Absolutely wrong. If I eat 10k calories of chicken breast I'm still going to be a fatass.

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Body weight is regulated by hormones. Normalize the hormones and avoid foods that screw with them and calorie counting is a thing of the past.


I'd like to know where you formulated this theory from.

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It’s what you eat and when you eat, not how much you eat (as long as you’re getting enough).



If you said the complete opposite of this you'd be right, but you couldnt be more wrong
Posted by OKTGR580
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Member since Apr 2018
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Posted on 7/22/18 at 4:38 pm to
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Eating healthy is expensive


Posted by OweO
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Member since Sep 2009
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Posted on 7/22/18 at 4:39 pm to
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theunknownknight


Do you have low self-esteem?

As for as this thread. We live in a world where families don't have time to cook, so they do the fasted thing available. They pick something up at McDonalds or Burger King.. And if that is the lifestyle someone established a few years ago, it's hard for them to break out of.

And it comes down to something pretty simple. People are taking in more calories than they are burning. People are working in their cubes all day, at lunch, they get out and go pick up fast food, then go back to work to sit in front of a computer for another 4 hrs..

Then there are all the "lose-weight" products out there. This type of diet, that type of diet and they all don't work the same for everyone. If people would simply become more active and just be aware of what you eat. If someone happens to eat more than average, then they will have to be a little more active than average to burn it off.
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
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Posted on 7/22/18 at 4:41 pm to
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We live in a world where families don't have time to cook,


Total and complete bullshite and this excuse is why there are so many fatasses
Posted by olgoi khorkhoi
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Member since May 2011
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Posted on 7/22/18 at 5:01 pm to
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If you said the complete opposite of this you'd be right, but you couldnt be more wrong


I know a couple modern dietitians that prescribe meal plans and it involves eating more food than you'd think possible. Patients invariably think "I'm trying to LOSE weight here" but when they try it, it works.

Anabolism, catablolism, metabolism, fat storage or loss, muscle gain/loss etc in the human body is regulated by hormones. That's why some people can eat whatever whenever and not exercise and be skinny, and some people watch their diet and exercise and struggle. If it was as simple and linear as you guys are trying to make it, the same diet would yeild the same body composition, weight gain/loss for everyone.


You can't eat 10k calories of Chicken Breast, and even if you could, that's not what I said, anyway. I said feed the body what it needs. It's not calling for that much protein. If you are eating the right foods, you can eat as much as you can hold and you won't get fat. The idea that you have to go hungry is false and stupid.

FTR, I do intermittent fasting, but for other benefits, not weight management. It is not the only way.
Posted by Num1TigerSpam
Member since Mar 2018
245 posts
Posted on 7/22/18 at 6:38 pm to
You are talking out of your arse.

Naturally thin people may appear to eat often but they are always consuming less overall by eating slowly, skipping other meals, not finishing meals, having food eversions that happen to pack calories, etc.

They may have irritable bowls that cause malabsorption but that’s not often the case.

They also do small things that go unnoticed like fidget more often, get bored easily, have hobbies that distract from eating or add up in extra calories burnt over time.

Also, many people neglect to consider the number of people at a slim weight that do make continuous conious decisions to maintain that.

Overweight people tend to not know the difference between being satisfied and stuffing themselves beyond satiation.

Some people eat to live, others live to eat

Edit:

Also, you are focusing too much on diet plans. The shits money making variations of whatever nonsense someone can come up with to sell people too ignorant to count their own damn calories

Different components of intake achieve varying levels of satiation despite calories. For example, 100 calories of protein has the potential to equate a feeling of satisfaction at the level of and over and longer period of time to roughly 5 times that of carbs, which require larger quantities and digest quickly.
At the end of the day no matter how you look over what’s occurring, it’s a calorie deficiet and when comparing yourself to others all other factors must be controlled for you to argue any significant variation. When looking at the big picture, it is absurd to focus on small factors with a combined less than tenth the impact on weight compared to the calorie in/out
This post was edited on 7/22/18 at 6:52 pm
Posted by cajuncarguy
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Member since Jun 2013
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Posted on 7/22/18 at 6:40 pm to
Nothing white. No sugar, no rice, no pasta, no bread, no white potatoes. Lean meats and fish, fresh dark veggies and fruits. Real Food.
Posted by McLemore
Member since Dec 2003
34800 posts
Posted on 7/22/18 at 6:48 pm to
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had to in high school.


I was close to 6' and 135lbs and couldn't gain weight. My grandmother called me a gutted snowbird. I would make 2500 calorie shakes.

Fast forward to age 30 and I hit 220.

Metabolism is a known process in many ways, but there are nuances we still don't understand.

Ftr, I'm a steady 165-180 in my 40s, just paying attention.
Posted by SECdragonmaster
Order of the Dragons
Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 7/22/18 at 6:52 pm to
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The FDA really fricked this all up when they came out with the food pyramid. For overall health, including weight loss, your diet should be overwhelmingly proteins and fats. The U.S. obesity crisis is a direct result of high-carbohydrate diets.


Truth.
Posted by Undertow
Member since Sep 2016
8884 posts
Posted on 7/22/18 at 6:54 pm to
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People eat out too much
People eat too much calorie and carb laden fast food
People buy and consume too much processed junk foods
People drink loads of soft drinks
Too little physical exercise
Too much computer, tv and video games
ad infinitum


And there are plenty of people that do this and still appear fit as a fiddle. Just as there are plenty of people that do all the right things and are still overweight.
Posted by tokenBoiler
Lafayette, Indiana
Member since Aug 2012
4982 posts
Posted on 7/22/18 at 6:56 pm to
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Why can’t you sustain exercise and the paleo diet long term?


Oh boy, Crossfit!

In.

Posted by LSUAlum2001
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Member since Aug 2003
48149 posts
Posted on 7/22/18 at 6:58 pm to
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Assuming no medical issues.


Laziness.

Everyone wants an easy way but it takes dedication and an actual effort to affect change.
Posted by olgoi khorkhoi
priapism survivor
Member since May 2011
16348 posts
Posted on 7/22/18 at 7:34 pm to
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Naturally thin people may appear to eat often but they are always consuming less overall by eating slowly, skipping other meals, not finishing meals, having food eversions that happen to pack calories, etc.




Oh ok.

So skinny people that eat a lot, actually don't. They leave food on the plate and hate steak and ice cream. And they're all fidgety like crack heads, obviously.

It all makes sense now. You're right, high levels of fat-burning hormones and low levels of fat storing hormones have nothing to do with it. And even if by some medical miracle, it did, everyone knows eating sugar doesn't spike insulin and suppress T levels and blunt natural HGH release, and eating healthy fat doesn't increase T levels.

What you eat has nothing to do with anything, just a simple calorie count and whether or not someone twitches.

That's brilliant.

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