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re: Why is downtown Baton Rouge so dead?

Posted on 7/9/25 at 4:10 pm to
Posted by Dixie2023
Member since Mar 2023
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Posted on 7/9/25 at 4:10 pm to
It’s a shame what happens when a democrat mayor is elected. Has anyone not noticed the pattern?
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
41685 posts
Posted on 7/9/25 at 4:20 pm to
We use to go Downtown to fine at The Little Village, Stroube’s or Watermark. I believe Avoyelles and Dagostino’s were other options.

Things got kind of seedy after Broome took over.

Do the have cops regularly down there to walk a beat? That would help.
Posted by nicholastiger
Member since Jan 2004
53776 posts
Posted on 7/9/25 at 4:24 pm to
it has to be a destination for people that want to go downtown to do stuff

The parking is a nightmare when you have some large event anywhere downtown

I wish they would have put a baseball stadium downtown
Posted by HeadSlash
TEAM LIVE BADASS - St. GEORGE
Member since Aug 2006
54762 posts
Posted on 7/9/25 at 4:32 pm to
quote:


Do the have cops regularly down there to walk a beat? That would help.


They had bicycle cops down there during the day.
Bums were shitting in people's flower beds.
Posted by Horsemeat
Truckin' somewhere in the US
Member since Dec 2014
15133 posts
Posted on 7/9/25 at 4:38 pm to
Fifteen years ago it seemed like Delgado had the start of something getting actual nightlife into downtown - from the sound of it that died off. When I left BR they had just got the Matherne's Grocery set up down there - no idea if its still running or not.
Posted by pbro62
Baton Rouge
Member since May 2016
15171 posts
Posted on 7/9/25 at 4:40 pm to
Because of the dumbass mayor
Posted by BigB0882
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2014
5417 posts
Posted on 7/9/25 at 5:00 pm to
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With that said, most downtown areas of cities are dying off a slow death. Covid really set it into motion.


You can not be serious. You think downtown areas going to shite started with Covid in 2020?! Were you born in 2019? Come on…
Posted by hansenthered1
Dixie
Member since Nov 2023
2251 posts
Posted on 7/9/25 at 5:13 pm to
Curse of the CSA...once they removed the statue things turned...South.
Posted by Jimmyboy
Member since May 2025
1900 posts
Posted on 7/9/25 at 5:15 pm to
Posted by travelgamer
Member since Aug 2024
2582 posts
Posted on 7/9/25 at 5:35 pm to
Downtown StL was dead on the weekend last time I was there, if the Cards aren't playing. It was kind of eerie.
Posted by Sun God
Member since Jul 2009
49744 posts
Posted on 7/9/25 at 5:36 pm to
It seemed like once city bar became big everything went to shite

Think it’s closed now too
Posted by KLSU
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2003
10977 posts
Posted on 7/9/25 at 5:40 pm to
All that has been tried before and failed.
Posted by mack the knife
EBR
Member since Oct 2012
4264 posts
Posted on 7/9/25 at 5:51 pm to
Tuesday evenings at O’Hare’s are pretty popping after Happy’s Running Club
This post was edited on 7/9/25 at 5:52 pm
Posted by wm72
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2010
9015 posts
Posted on 7/9/25 at 5:57 pm to
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With that said, most downtown areas of cities are dying off a slow death. Covid really set it into motion.


It's really the opposite. There's tons of cities that have brought a lot of business, restaurants and nightlife back to downtown areas that were falling on very hard times 15-25 years ago.

I'm in Pensacola often and that downtown is exponentially busier every few months. Mobile's downtown is better these days than probably anytime since the 70s.

Northeast and West are filled with thriving downtowns (but many of those did benefit from tighter zoning curbing suburban sprawl over the years).

Covid momentarily hurt some downtowns of the biggest cities but most of those are rebounding.
Posted by Lee B
Member since Dec 2018
3450 posts
Posted on 7/9/25 at 6:25 pm to
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Every time i got down there it is a ghost town. On weekdays there is like 1 patron for every bar that is open. Feel like the city should do something to fix that. Move a bunch of government agencies into those buildings. Get rid of all those parking lots. Develop some restaurants that overlook the river. Sheesh. It aint rocket science.


Oh, millions and millions are being spent right at this minute on studies by consulting groups on how to re-invigorate downtown BR... just as they've been spent regularly trying to figure that out since the late 80s, when it first completely died.

The problem?

Young people don't live downtown. Young people do things all the time... have the energy to hang out late and somehow make it into work the next morning... cities run on young people.

Those studies have told them the same exact thing over and over and over since the late '80s: "First a city's downtown area dies, then from there it spreads out concentrically and the entire city dies... because you have no young people and everyone dies off. So, the problem is not your downtown, that's the signal that your city is not retaining young people, and not retaining young people is a death sentence."

And over and over they manage to mangle that somehow... "we need young families!" Well, yeah, eventually... but young families are not doing things all of the time, they're busy raising families and working, so they're both the second half of the solution and the first part of the problem. You need tons of young singles doing stuff, being vibrant, and that leads to them getting hitched and moving out to the suburbs... BR is eternally set on jumping right to that phase and kind of being intolerant of the phase before it (outside of college bars).

So downtown is dead because BR can't retain people who graduate from LSU. And the reasons they give when they survey them about why they're moving somewhere else (Houston, Austin, Dallas, Atlanta, Asheville...) instead of staying here is "jobs, bikability/walkability/mass transit, live music and nightlife for young people, outdoor recreational activities... and (this one is funny) NOT ENOUGH YOUNG PEOPLE!"

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But specifically, too, not a lot of people live downtown... they've added housing but it isn't exactly cheap, so older people are mostly in it... the kinds who want to sleep and complain about noise in the area.

Younger people used to live in Spanish Town and Beauregard Town and go downtown for a while, there (2000-2010, maybe) but they've shifted to Mid-City... and bars/restaurants they can walk/bike to...

Posted by Sun God
Member since Jul 2009
49744 posts
Posted on 7/9/25 at 6:27 pm to
Downtown literally went downhill the second Kip was gone and SWB came in.

That’s the reason
Posted by Lee B
Member since Dec 2018
3450 posts
Posted on 7/9/25 at 6:27 pm to
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All that has been tried before and failed.


Yeah, until you have a lot of people living there who just stumble out of their door and a couple of blocks away to places it isn't going to work.

Also, whenever someone does get some success with a bar or something there's people trying to get the lease out from under them because they think the location is a winner... then they make it the same thing that is everywhere else in town, ususally.
Posted by Lee B
Member since Dec 2018
3450 posts
Posted on 7/9/25 at 7:08 pm to
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Baton Rouge.

Some of you may recall before CAMD was built ( and The Town Center at Cedar Lodge shopping area) , that entire area was to be a LSU Research Park.

LSU had planned to build a research area with CAMD as its' anchor . Well we can see how that played out.

Why I mention this is that for the last 15 years I've been talking to anyone who would listen that the area of Baton Rouge north of LSU and between Highland Rd. and Nicholson(and south of I-10) should be purchased by LSU in order to build a true research park complete with student(only) housing. That area in turn could help re -invigorate downtown.

I have talked with several developers and they seem to be interested but unfortunately I believe that the state legislature and the governor would have to sign off on this endeavor.


The Water Campus (Coastal Studies) is being built up between Nicholson and the River right south of I-10, and there seems to be lots of housing as part of that...

Someone bought a lot of the houses on Nicholson a little further up around Magnolia Mound plantation... these were fairly big houses with huge lots, and tore them down. But who knows what if anything is being done there.

The area you're talking about has tons of housing and commercial property... dealing with every one would probably be very expensive and difficult.

But right outside the North Gates of LSU on Nicholson there's a lot of seemingly condemned and boarded up apartments. I always wonder why someone or the University hasn't snatched that up and done something.
Posted by BatonRougePlantRat
Baton Rouge, Louisiana
Member since Jan 2023
44 posts
Posted on 7/9/25 at 7:08 pm to
Yes cops are always posted on 3rd street hanging out especially by their station on the corner. On Friday and Saturday night they walk up and down 3rd checking on things and stay until after 2 AM closing time. They are always nice and friendly, I normally stop at the corner store and get them drinks/snacks.
Posted by BatonRougePlantRat
Baton Rouge, Louisiana
Member since Jan 2023
44 posts
Posted on 7/9/25 at 7:10 pm to
Mathernes is still open. Actually decent pricing considering the location. I shop here when I’m not making a big run. It’s nice to be able to walk to your grocery store I tell ya. Very clean and organized. 5 dollar sushi rolls on Wednesday, hot plate lunches during the week
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