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re: Why I hate Unions - BLET spends millions on resorts while members "can't afford bills"
Posted on 5/20/26 at 1:54 pm to 777Tiger
Posted on 5/20/26 at 1:54 pm to 777Tiger
Corporate leaderships job is to make as much money as possible for the shareholders. It’s fricking slimey but it’s out in the open and stated.
Union leadership is supposed to protect workers rights and jobs. How does spending millions on luxuries advance ANY of that?
Union leadership is supposed to protect workers rights and jobs. How does spending millions on luxuries advance ANY of that?
Posted on 5/20/26 at 1:55 pm to Oilfieldbiology
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Corporate leaderships job is to make as much money as possible for
themselves, period
Posted on 5/20/26 at 1:58 pm to 777Tiger
Yes. It’s stated in the job title.
That is expressly different than union leadership. Union leadership is the exact perfect example of communism and socialism executed in the real world.
That is expressly different than union leadership. Union leadership is the exact perfect example of communism and socialism executed in the real world.
Posted on 5/20/26 at 1:59 pm to BasilFawlty
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When I was in college, I got into a disagreement with my instructor about joining a teacher's union (I was an education major).
Her argument for was that I ever got into a legal situation, the union would be there for me as legal representation. An "invaluable" resource.
My argument against was that it seemed to me the easiest way to protect myself was not to put myself in that situation to begin with.
Previously working in public education for 15 years, I won’t work in a school district without a union. Parents will sue over absolutely anything and everything.
I once needed union representation over a suit a parent filed claiming her child had nerve damage in his hand because he got a piece of pencil graphite stuck in it and we didn’t remove it at the end of the school day or contact her by phone (she hadn’t update her contact info at the school). It drug on for months because she hired the equivalent of an ambulance chaser for the school district and they were determined to get us all fired (myself, a clerk, and a teacher).
I understand frustration with unions in certain settings but they still have value in some situations.
This post was edited on 5/20/26 at 2:00 pm
Posted on 5/20/26 at 2:03 pm to 3nOut
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Womens’s suffrage
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causes society to correct.
Nah, it was the beginning of the end for the US.
Posted on 5/20/26 at 3:05 pm to jbgleason
I guess they learned about abusing the system from our government.
Goverment spending abuse
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Perhaps most notable, though, was the food spending, which came in at more than $20 million. This included $15.1 million on rib-eye steak, $1 million of salmon, 272 orders of doughnuts for $139,224, $124,000 for ice-cream machines and $26,000 for sushi preparation tables.
Goverment spending abuse
This post was edited on 5/20/26 at 3:09 pm
Posted on 5/20/26 at 8:03 pm to jbgleason
As a union member for 41 years there were some things I didn't like from the leadership. For the most part they were there for the members. My wife absolutely hated paying the dues every month. But besides the money for Medicare every month, our secondary thru the union is $115 a month for both. Once we each meet our deductible for the year ( $300 ) we haven't seen a bill.
Thank you James Riddle Hoffa may you Rest in Peace where ever you ended up.
Thank you James Riddle Hoffa may you Rest in Peace where ever you ended up.
Posted on 5/20/26 at 8:07 pm to jbgleason
Unions for relatively unskilled labor is a scam in today’s age.
It blows my mind that Ford and GM are held hostage by $70,000 employees who literally just attach a door to a truck 50 times a day. We wonder why shitty trucks cost so much.
It blows my mind that Ford and GM are held hostage by $70,000 employees who literally just attach a door to a truck 50 times a day. We wonder why shitty trucks cost so much.
Posted on 5/20/26 at 9:12 pm to jcaz
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blows my mind that Ford and GM are held hostage by $70,000 employees who literally just attach a door to a truck 50 times a day. We wonder why shitty trucks cost so much.
They should just take the hit and let their union contracts expire and then hire new workers.
Posted on 5/21/26 at 5:53 am to jbgleason
Over a decade ago, a Dayton area Kroger's UFCW contract leaked online.
Numerous positions started off at minimum wage and less than $10 an hour after five years.
I always thought it was dishonest for the union to get paid after accomplishing so little.
Numerous positions started off at minimum wage and less than $10 an hour after five years.
I always thought it was dishonest for the union to get paid after accomplishing so little.
Posted on 5/21/26 at 6:11 am to jbgleason
Point taken. I work for a non-union company and the Union company down the street pays better.
Posted on 5/21/26 at 6:33 am to kywildcatfanone
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They should just take the hit and let their union contracts expire and then hire new workers.
They will have to or accept the end. Asian cars are eating their lunch because they aren’t constrained like that. The American brands attempted to price their basic tech like luxury brands and it’s backfired badly.
Posted on 5/21/26 at 7:04 am to jbgleason
The only folks who benefit the most from unions are the mostly fat, lazy, middle-aged dudes who have no problem with telling lies in order to sell the propaganda to unwitting members.
And they support the most evil party in our country today, the Democrats, while the rank and file members vote Republican in most elections.
And they support the most evil party in our country today, the Democrats, while the rank and file members vote Republican in most elections.
Posted on 5/21/26 at 7:20 am to JTM72
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I hate unions bc they are lazy af, and get mad when you do something that is "their job" that they weren't going to do anyways
Yeah I remember there was some union folks at a plant I worked a turnaround at. One of the younger guys picked up a broom and started cleaning up the area. He got chewed out because he was doing the union laborer's job. He was supposed to just sit on his arse and wait I guess.
Posted on 5/21/26 at 8:53 am to rrboy
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Now do ceo’s, board members, and management so we can compare.
No shite. $3.2 million isn't even a mini-golden parachute for a CEO. More like a golden hankerchief.
Posted on 5/21/26 at 9:24 am to Loup
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One of the younger guys picked up a broom and started cleaning up the area. He got chewed out because he was doing the union laborer's job
He or someone nearby should have told the union hand to get fricked and the kid to carry on. Dare the grown man to file a grievance on a kid for sweeping the floor instead of sitting on his arse. Its so very worth it for so many reasons. The frickers will usually do it, and then you get to laugh at a grown man for being such a pussy.
Unions are labor extortion agencies. Its much different than a big corporation. In a corporation, you are free to leave whenever you want, advance yourself by application of effort and display of talent. In a union, you are a cog in the machine in the most literal sense. They had a place once but now, after having to directly work with them, negotiate contracts, etc, I hate them.
Posted on 5/21/26 at 11:32 am to Loup
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. One of the younger guys picked up a broom and started cleaning up the area. He got chewed out because he was doing the union laborer's job.
The big thing ab unions I do not understand is them trying to force non union workers to play their little fricking games - like the above example. I've told them before that since I am not union, I don't play by their bullshite made up rules, and if they don't like it they can get off my jobsite and file a grievance, it has yet to happen.
This post was edited on 5/21/26 at 11:34 am
Posted on 5/21/26 at 11:49 am to JTM72
Ive had them filed against me and it can be a serious problem depending on the union and who their site representative is and all that good stuff. I was lucky to only get myself a talking to once by my personal management, and it was ok once everybody in the room understood my position. It is interesting to watch grown men give a-hole answers to simple questions such as "why didnt you pull the pump yourself if it was your job to do it, you got paid to do it, you had the opportunity AND had direction to do it?"
Unions are the easy button for staffing maintenance crews, turnarounds, etc, and I get it. It takes A LOT of effort to make sure that "im not doing it right now but you cant either because its my job" attitude doesnt set in and spread. You have to nip that shite in the bud, and the good union hands will appreciate you doing it.
Unions are the easy button for staffing maintenance crews, turnarounds, etc, and I get it. It takes A LOT of effort to make sure that "im not doing it right now but you cant either because its my job" attitude doesnt set in and spread. You have to nip that shite in the bud, and the good union hands will appreciate you doing it.
Posted on 5/21/26 at 1:03 pm to jbgleason
Now do CEOs and their lavish salaries, bonuses, golden parachutes, etc while laying off 1000s of employees.
No doubt, there are problems with corruption in unions and it’s wild for their officials to spend money like that. But it doesn’t negate the need for worker unity and collective bargaining in a capitalist society.
No doubt, there are problems with corruption in unions and it’s wild for their officials to spend money like that. But it doesn’t negate the need for worker unity and collective bargaining in a capitalist society.
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