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re: Why have modern women become so narcissistic?

Posted on 5/14/23 at 5:28 pm to
Posted by jizzle6609
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Posted on 5/14/23 at 5:28 pm to
We helped them get there by making chick's millionaires for butthole chocolate mold candies.
Posted by Jcorye1
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Posted on 5/14/23 at 5:37 pm to
Simps
Posted by Arthur Bach
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Posted on 5/14/23 at 5:38 pm to
I have no idea, but my woman is great
Posted by liz18lsu
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Posted on 5/14/23 at 5:43 pm to
Mom isn't speaking to me because she told me Dad might have something to tell me, but it was his to share. I guessed he had cancer and she affirmed. I sent him a short text wishing him well. She texted, angry that I told him I knew. Stupid games.

While they were at Mass, I left her yellow roses and a card on their car.

My mom is a complete narcissist while being very charitable (to make up for her earlier mistakes). Dad never cared, a phone call was enough. I don't expect gifts, or even desire them. I learned how not to be, from my mom.

One of my bday presents (we are in to music and 42 is a tough one)
This post was edited on 5/14/23 at 5:46 pm
Posted by Rouge
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Posted on 5/14/23 at 5:44 pm to
It was all downhill after we ratified the 19th amendment
Posted by Lsupimp
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Posted on 5/14/23 at 5:46 pm to
This quote demonstrates female solipsism, narcissism’s distant third cousin which is baked into the human recipe:

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“Women have always been the primary victims of war. Women lose their husbands, their fathers, their sons in combat. Women often have to flee from the only homes they have ever known. Women are often the refugees from conflict and sometimes, more frequently in today’s warfare, victims. Women are often left with the responsibility, alone, of raising the children.” – Hillary Clinton


If that doesn’t say it all about how women view the world.

Narcissism is a different animal . It’s clinical, it’s a pathology, it’s a destroyer of human beings. It’s a sickness and it has no mercy. Mental health professionals know that it’s a growing epidemic primarily due to social media.

But the other thing is just as important. Female solipsism is just part of the deal here on planet earth. It’s not inherently bad, it serves a purpose and it’s just life. When a woman feels things, shares her feelings, gets those feelings affirmed by her romantic partner, she feels alive. She’s growing. A man just wants to enjoy his cheeseburger and avoid her constant deep- dive into her own mind, which he views as self- indulgent.

Feeling it is not enough for a woman, she must also share it , ruminate on it, build on it, continuously throughout her life. Men just want to live out in the world and experience things. Women want to experience their emotions and thoughts. They don’t understand that men see this as self- absorbed and annoying. They don’t know it drives men crazy, because being all up in their feels is the whole point for women. Men just want to watch the ball game.


I’d say men see it as “ I think therefore I am “ whereas women would say “ I emote therefore I am “.
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Posted on 5/14/23 at 5:50 pm to
Posted by pelicansfan123
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Posted on 5/14/23 at 5:53 pm to
I don't agree with your Mother's Day point (haven't noticed any extra Mother's Day "press" this year), but I will say that Instagram has caused a lot of people, but I would say majority women (since I'm guessing that's the majority of active users on Instagram) to become more self-centered.

I look at some of these pictures of people in beautiful locations mugging to the camera for an Instagram pose, and I'm just thinking to myself, "Go and enjoy the beautiful scenery. Don't worry about putting it on social media so your 'followers' can see how much 'fun' you're having."

My belief is that if you're actually having that much fun, you wouldn't be so focused on posting on social media during that supposedly "fun" time.
This post was edited on 5/14/23 at 7:53 pm
Posted by Lsupimp
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Posted on 5/14/23 at 5:57 pm to
I think it’s generational. Older women ( say over 45 ) aren’t likely to be narcissistic like younger women, having grown up in a more traditional era with healthier assumptions. 20 something women are freaking crazy. And Instagram is ground zero for their craziness.
Posted by touchdownjeebus
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Posted on 5/14/23 at 6:02 pm to
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No one really gives a crap about Father’s Day.


This isn’t true. You are expected to grill food for everyone.
Posted by marigny
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Posted on 5/14/23 at 6:04 pm to
Made me smile. It is super unfair.
Posted by soccerfüt
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Posted on 5/14/23 at 6:06 pm to
Just 17 short of the sharing number.
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Posted by USMCguy121
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Posted on 5/14/23 at 6:06 pm to
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A 9 dude banging a 6 woman doesn't make her a 9, but you'll never convince her of that.


So so true
Posted by LemmyLives
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Posted on 5/14/23 at 6:08 pm to
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Feeling it is not enough for a woman, she must also share it , ruminate on it, build on it, continuously throughout her life.


Abandon all hope, ye with testicles.

You're absolutely right, and it's depressing.

We should all go wash our brains out by watching a season of "F is for Family" on Netflix.

The worst part is that men in society used to serve as a balance on the feelz. In the last 30 years men have been trained with said feelz, and support and affirm this activity, and often engage in it themselves. Choke yourselves.

I need some Bill Burr stat.
Posted by GreenRockTiger
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Posted on 5/14/23 at 6:17 pm to
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My friends told me that their wives have been reminding them constantly that Mother’s Day is this weekend and that they need to do something special for their wives and mothers.
I don’t care for Hallmark holidays it’s silly -my husband shouldn’t have to be told to do something special for me (or me for him) or the kids or whomever

BUT a lot of women and men get caught up with having to keep up with whatever the trend is, and TBH - many men would never think of doing something special without being told
Posted by tigergirl10
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Posted on 5/14/23 at 6:19 pm to
It’s an honor and a privilege for me to be a mother and to honor the special mother and grandmothers I’ve been blessed with.

For me, going to mass with my child and having a delicious meal together is better than anything materialistic.

Too many focus on nonsense and accumulating junk and not enough on gratitude and blessings.
Posted by Lsupimp
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Posted on 5/14/23 at 6:23 pm to
Think about it- men seek alignment with their external world. Women seek alignment with their internal world. It looks like narcissism to men, but it’s really a hardwired biological difference. Women have to deep dive their feels . Men see our feelings as important but secondary to truth. To women, their emotions are the truth of what they deem most important; themselves. Men find the external world more important. Men know since childhood that we are disposable and we just get on with things. Women get on with their feelings. We are at a basic level, totally different in our approach to life.
Posted by GreenRockTiger
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Posted on 5/14/23 at 6:29 pm to
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To women, their emotions are the truth of what they deem most important; themselves. Men find the external world more important.

Must be another biological difference because I don’t agree with this at all. I find men only really care about satisfying their needs and wants and their desires - and screw everyone else. Whereas most women worry too much about pleasing others and being part of a group, in whatever way that is - posting fake perfect photos on Instagram or thinking they are number one just because that’s the thing to do
Posted by pelicansfan123
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Posted on 5/14/23 at 6:31 pm to
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I think it’s generational. Older women ( say over 45 ) aren’t likely to be narcissistic like younger women, having grown up in a more traditional era with healthier assumptions. 20 something women are freaking crazy. And Instagram is ground zero for their craziness.




I have noticed it's mainly younger women on Instagram posting about their trips and acting like they're celebrities.

I think some of it has to do with how we've shifted to a materialistic society, in general. For the most part, gone are the days where it didn't matter where you went, it was just about the people you were on the trip with.

Nowadays, it's about trying to make it seem like you are having having the most luxurious vacation in the most beautiful spot.
Posted by LemmyLives
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Posted on 5/14/23 at 6:34 pm to
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Women seek alignment with their internal world


I would suggest that social media has greatly impacted women, much faster, and in a much more focused manner, on what other people think was possible before social media. Dopamine is a factor, but women are so more drawn (and this has been since the beginning of time) to seeking validation and confirmation from other women. Social media means this doesn't happen on "mommy day" on Thursday before they pick up the kids from school, it means it happens every hour they are awake with each other.

They're in an echo chamber of emotional affirmation and bullshite with 50+ women that live anywhere around them.

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Men know since childhood that we are disposable


Women are sex objects, men are success objects.
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