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re: Why has architecture, design, and fashion changed so drastically from say pre WW2 to now?
Posted on 6/4/26 at 9:18 am to Mike da Tigah
Posted on 6/4/26 at 9:18 am to Mike da Tigah
Capitalism optimizes for profit not aesthetic and cultural value.
A lot of the early leaders of various societies had vision and an interest in architecture.
A lot of the early leaders of various societies had vision and an interest in architecture.
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Posted on 6/4/26 at 9:28 am to Strannix
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The destruction of art is a tenet of International Bolshevism.
As far as the ugliness of architecture goes, you’re absolutely correct about this stuff having roots in Marxism. Most-post WWII architecture traces its roots to the Bauhaus movement in post Great War Germany. Those men were a “collective” and heavily influenced by Marxist concepts. It was basically an architecture cult with Bolshevik ideas and they even required members to eat a “non-bourgeois diet” for a time. Mies van der Rohe, who saddled us with so many of our ugly soulless glass and steel boxes, was a student of the movement. The Bauhaus bunch considered beauty and ornament to be a kind of secular sin, and “starting from zero” was the only acceptable ethos in building. Read Tom Wolfe’s From Bauhaus to Our House. It’s the best indictment of postwar architecture ever put to paper.
Posted on 6/4/26 at 9:38 am to Bard
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While the easy answer is "muh Boomers," the more accurate answer how varying catalysts came together to influence them along with how they appealed to Boomers.
I don't think anyone is blaming Boomers. This stuff started before they had any level of institutional control. They were also raised all around the cold war brutalism of things, and as such, didn't really pay attention to it. It's the fish in water scenario.
Younger generations are going through something of a Renaissance, where they see what their people once were, and are starting to gravitate towards it. It'll be interesting to see what Zoomer and Alpha architects start building when they're fully of age.
Posted on 6/4/26 at 9:38 am to Mike da Tigah
The Suit was always a status symbol for power, particularly at work. But then casual Friday made it optional. Silicone Valley billionaires & sheep made it embarrassing. The Pandemic made it unnecessary. And soft/casual wear slowly became the new work uniform. Unfortunately, the suit is currently just for rituals (funerals, weddings, judge verdicts, etc...)
So, it's not dead & it may make a comeback. A suit now speaks loudly as a rebel/non-conformist. Some tycoon/celebrity/influencer will standout & probably revive the trend.
So, it's not dead & it may make a comeback. A suit now speaks loudly as a rebel/non-conformist. Some tycoon/celebrity/influencer will standout & probably revive the trend.
Posted on 6/4/26 at 9:41 am to cypresstiger
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architecture, design, and fashion
—Change constantly
Clearly, but not usually for the worst. If anything, I think it is a reflection of society changing, or perhaps being changed. It’s not organic as if it’s the people’s choice.
Go back to the renaissance and you will see a people with grandiose visions and wonder reflected in their architecture. Go back even further in time and you see impressive structures we still have today, because they’re made of materials that stand the test of time. Go back to 13th century Europe and you can see what people were saying in the architecture they designed and built that still stand today.
Now, FF to today and only a few decades after they were built you can see whole swaths of vacant strip malls that litter America with homeless people defecating outside their abandoned shells. What were those who built those things saying except make as much money as you can, consume to make more money, and then move along like a locust colony, leaving a trail of destruction in their wake. Pure unadulterated selfishness if you ask me, with no pause or concern for the future of the place they built. It may be the world in which we find ourselves living, but I certainly do not think people necessarily consciously selected this for themselves.
In 200 to 300 years, if humanity survives, what will future generations have to go on that we were actually here in 2026? What buildings we have built today do you suppose will still be standing to tell our tale?
Posted on 6/4/26 at 9:43 am to Mike da Tigah
Just more of evidence of our decline as a society. There are beautiful courthouses all over the south, built after the CW when the south was dirt poor, that are still standing and functional today and many haven't had much renovation.
There's plenty of houses still standing and still lived in that are over 100 years old. I doubt many homes built today will fare that well.
Our ancestors were smarter than we are today.
There's plenty of houses still standing and still lived in that are over 100 years old. I doubt many homes built today will fare that well.
Our ancestors were smarter than we are today.
Posted on 6/4/26 at 9:44 am to Mike da Tigah
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It’s as if they planned on the building saying something about them and they wanted to stick around a while
In the instance of the cotton exchange the original building was deemed unsafe after 30 years because the structure was not built to last.
Posted on 6/4/26 at 9:45 am to Mike da Tigah
That new Cadillac looks great
Posted on 6/4/26 at 9:47 am to biglego
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That new Cadillac looks great
Wait 60 years and see if anyone cares though.
Posted on 6/4/26 at 10:14 am to UptownJoeBrown
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Civil Rights era in the 60s and then the Vietnam war with the hippies
We dropped a lot of standards during that time period. Decorum, courtesy and propriety are greatly diminished. We are an entitled and selfish society, with way too many people with substance abuse and untreated mental health issues.
Posted on 6/4/26 at 10:19 am to kengel2
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I call it maximizing profits.
Nailed it.
The almighty dollar is king. If these corporations can save some money by building a bland box instead of a building with a little character by removing anything not crucial to the function of the building, they will do it every time.
Posted on 6/4/26 at 10:22 am to Mike da Tigah
$$$
Posted on 6/4/26 at 10:26 am to IAmNERD
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The almighty dollar is king. If these corporations can save some money by building a bland box instead of a building with a little character by removing anything not crucial to the function of the building, they will do it every time.
This cuts both ways though. If consumers/renters valued the architectural details and were willing to pay the higher rents required to finance the higher costs, more beautiful structures would be built.
Posted on 6/4/26 at 10:28 am to IAmNERD
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Nailed it.
The almighty dollar is king. If these corporations can save some money by building a bland box instead of a building with a little character by removing anything not crucial to the function of the building, they will do it every time.
well they obviously did not back then, so what changed?
Posted on 6/4/26 at 10:35 am to Crowknowsbest
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This cuts both ways though. If consumers/renters valued the architectural details and were willing to pay the higher rents required to finance the higher costs, more beautiful structures would be built.
And yet the rent still drastically increases regardless, in spite of a lack of redeeming design and shoddy materials and workmanship. Don’t get me started on substrates.
As said previously, the almighty dollar fuels every bit of this, and we’ve all been conditioned to just accept it as progress, but is it really progress for our society or future generations?
Posted on 6/4/26 at 10:37 am to Mike da Tigah
We as a society have dropped all standards of appearance, behavior, morality and ethics.
And this isn’t a good thing.
And this isn’t a good thing.
Posted on 6/4/26 at 10:39 am to Mike da Tigah
This is actually better than most leave the house these days. This guy at least look presentable, clean and neat. You are correct you are being very generous.
This post was edited on 6/4/26 at 10:41 am
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