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re: Why don't places across the US that have "crayfish" farm them in the NE, Montana, Midwest?
Posted on 8/21/23 at 8:51 am to chrome_daddy
Posted on 8/21/23 at 8:51 am to chrome_daddy
There is a place up in Paragould Arkansas that farms their own. They’ve got a couple thousand acres they run. Farthest north I’ve seen them.
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Posted on 8/21/23 at 9:37 am to beebefootballfan
I’ve steamed them a few times myself.Put the crawfish boil in a few inches of water,crawfish in a basket.
They were good.
Don’t knock it unless you’ve tried it.
They were good.
Don’t knock it unless you’ve tried it.
Posted on 8/21/23 at 9:42 am to Saunson69
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The "crayfish" in NJ look different than the ones here. They're not red underneath.
There are only two species of crawfish that are fished commercially--red swamp and white river--out of 30 or 40 species of crawfish native to North America. Both species naturally live in semi-permanently to permanently flooded systems, which is what makes them well-suited to aquaculture. BUT, as others have alluded to, you need the right soil type to pull off crawfish farming.
There is a reason crawfish farming has a restricted range even in LA--sandy soils are not conducive to the floods needed for crawfish aquaculture.
Add to that the fact that most other states probably lack the market for crawfish, as well as the agricultural systems to make it feasible to incorporate into existing operations, and there a few reasons why crawfish farming is not more widespread.
This post was edited on 8/21/23 at 9:44 am
Posted on 8/21/23 at 10:49 am to CHEDBALLZ
quote:California - the northern part, at least - is one of the few places I've ever been that uses the term "crawdad" instead of crayfish.
I'm pretty sure California has a few crawfish farms.
Posted on 8/21/23 at 11:36 am to ragincajun03
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I’ve heard the same from a buddy whose family is generation rice farmers around East Bernard. Something about the soil being too sandy, not enough good, sticky clay, for the crawfish to want to hold in large numbers.
Yup. Need good dirt to have a good crawfish crop.
Posted on 8/21/23 at 12:11 pm to Cowboyfan89
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Add to that the fact that most other states probably lack the market for crawfish,
Bingo. No Cajuns living there. Just kidding, sort of.
Posted on 8/21/23 at 12:15 pm to LSUA 75
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Don’t knock it unless you’ve tried it.
If they are anything like Maryland steamed crabs, then I think I'll pass.
Posted on 8/21/23 at 12:20 pm to Saunson69
I just pay out the arse and have them overnighted to me 2-3 times a year.
Posted on 8/21/23 at 12:22 pm to GarmischTiger
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California - the northern part, at least - is one of the few places I've ever been that uses the term "crawdad" instead of crayfish.
Growing up in Oregon we would catch them in cups in streams and were always called crawdads. They aren't very good though and more of a grey color for the ones native to the Northwest.
Posted on 8/21/23 at 12:27 pm to Cowboyfan89
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river--out of 30 or 40 species of crawfish native to North America
Alabama has 97 species.
Posted on 8/21/23 at 12:32 pm to turnpiketiger
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quote:rural Houston What is this
Probably Katy
Posted on 8/21/23 at 12:41 pm to redstick13
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I think the issue is that the don’t reproduce fast enough to support a farming industry in cold weather climates.
Sounds about right.
I was going to say its because no one wants a visit from Chet and Chad from the crawfish mafia.
Posted on 8/21/23 at 1:19 pm to rooster108bm
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Alabama has 97 species.
Maybe I'm only thinking of LA then.
Come to think of it, that figure probably came from a book on LA crawfish.
Posted on 8/21/23 at 1:28 pm to Locoguan0
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Friend of mine in Maryland was invited to a crawfish boil by some locals that wanted to give them a try. Bastards steamed those bugs.
Steamed them, guys.
Pfff... I need a minute.
... that's just those Yankees, that's what they do
Yankees being Yankees ...
Yankees even steam their crab and steam their shrimp instead of boil and load up on that Ole Bay seasoning (ugh)
Damn Yankees
Posted on 8/21/23 at 1:35 pm to CHEDBALLZ
quote:Sacramento flood plain farmed crawfish are actually not bad
I'm pretty sure California has a few crawfish farms.
Posted on 8/21/23 at 2:22 pm to Saunson69
You don’t like the price per pound in south la you water freezes in Montana
Posted on 8/21/23 at 5:04 pm to Cowboyfan89
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There are only two species of crawfish that are fished commercially--red swamp and white river--out of 30 or 40 species of crawfish native to North America. Both species naturally live in semi-permanently to permanently flooded systems, which is what makes them well-suited to aquaculture. But, as others have alluded to, you need the right soil type to pull off crawfish farming. There is a reason crawfish farming has a restricted range even in LA--sandy soils are not conducive to the floods needed for crawfish aquaculture. Add to that the fact that most other states probably lack the market for crawfish, as well as the agricultural systems to make it feasible to incorporate into existing operations, and there a few reasons why crawfish farming is not more widespread.
39 species of crawfish in LA, nearly 400 in North America, nearly 600, give or take, world-wide, and as stated, Alabama has the most diverse crawfish fauna in the USA with over 90. Australia has near 150 species, second to only North America. Of those 600 species perhaps a dozen or so grown to size most would be considered edible. Rest your statements/comments are pretty spot on.
As to the the OP’s original question, in southern Louisiana we can grow a crawfish from the size of a mosquito when hatched to market size in, on average, 4 months. Go north as far Shreveport that 4 months becomes 6 months. The mountain states and mid-western states mentioned by the OP, it takes from 3 to 4 years for crawfish to grow to an edible size. Whole lot cheaper to ship/truck crawfish from Louisiana and sell them in most states than it would be to grow them in those areas, and we ship 10s of millions of pounds to other states annually. Lots of crawfish festivals that occur throughout the USA that get their product from LA in order to have those festivals.
There is a little crawfish farming in the Midwest and Northeast USA, different species, and as stated by others, its primarily for recreational fish bait. Crawfish in CA, red swamp crawfish, pretty much are harvested from rice fields when they are drained to harvest rice - not really farmed as we do it. Those crawfish/crayfish harvested in OR and WA states, a cool water species, are harvested from the wild.
The Scandinavian method of cooking crawfish in salted water with lots of dill for favoring, while knocking down vodka or aquavit, is actually pretty good - assumes you like dill pickles - just a different style of cooking.
Posted on 8/21/23 at 5:43 pm to CrawDude
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CrawDude
Name checks out...lmao!
Posted on 8/21/23 at 7:17 pm to Saunson69
Wow, there really are some miserable chaps on TD to have 18 downvotes and 2 upvotes on this post. If you dislike this, you dislike anything
Posted on 8/21/23 at 7:24 pm to turnpiketiger
30-40 miles SSW of Houston I know there's a crawfish farm as I've bought from it.
This post was edited on 8/21/23 at 7:25 pm
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