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Why don’t more developments make the center into shopping, restaurant and bars?
Posted on 5/16/20 at 5:50 pm
Posted on 5/16/20 at 5:50 pm
There is nothing better than being able to walk around your neighborhood and stop for bite of food or beer. I understand the pools in the center of developments/neighborhoods are great but so many more suburban areas would be so much better if you had more things to do in your neighborhood. Now this definitely works best in your standard grid type neighborhood so outsiders can come.
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Posted on 5/16/20 at 5:53 pm to thadcastle
Zoning would be a bitch for most. Bar zoning is not well received
Posted on 5/16/20 at 5:53 pm to thadcastle
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so outsiders can come.
You answered your own question. Why the frick would you want the whole city coming into your neighborhood?
Posted on 5/16/20 at 5:55 pm to WG_Dawg
Lol. The HOA here was bitching about a bar trying to open a few blocks down the road and ultimately bitched enough to stop them from receiving permits.
In a downtown condo type place the zoning would make it easy.
As far as nice, single-family home neighborhoods? Good luck.
In a downtown condo type place the zoning would make it easy.
As far as nice, single-family home neighborhoods? Good luck.
Posted on 5/16/20 at 5:59 pm to BPTiger
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far as nice, single-family home neighborhoods?
West University and rice village did it perfectly.
Posted on 5/16/20 at 6:03 pm to thadcastle
People that move to suburbs don’t want bars in their neighborhoods
Posted on 5/16/20 at 6:06 pm to yellowfin
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People that move to suburbs don’t want bars in their neighborhoods
I would argue most people who move to the burns are forced to due to property in the city being to expensive and school in the burbs being better. I doubt most people enjoy the longer commute
Posted on 5/16/20 at 6:15 pm to WG_Dawg
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You answered your own question. Why the frick would you want the whole city coming into your neighborhood?
I don’t see the issue. Classy places in the neighborhood would mean classy visitors pumping money into your community.
Posted on 5/16/20 at 6:39 pm to thadcastle
They do this in a planned community in a suburb west of Phoenix.
Actually really nice community....just freaking far from everything (it's about an hour from Scottsdale).
But their neighborhood has it's own main street with grocery store, pharmacy, shops, restaurants, etc.
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Their main street area...
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Actually really nice community....just freaking far from everything (it's about an hour from Scottsdale).
But their neighborhood has it's own main street with grocery store, pharmacy, shops, restaurants, etc.
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Their main street area...
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>Posted on 5/16/20 at 6:43 pm to lsunurse
They two places like that in northern palm beach county. Abacoa and Alton. Both in Jupiter area. Condos closer to the center and then townhomes and single family homes. All very small lot line. Cardinals spring training right in middle of it.
This post was edited on 5/16/20 at 6:44 pm
Posted on 5/16/20 at 6:46 pm to yellowfin
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People that move to suburbs don’t want bars in their neighborhoods
Well, that depends entirely on the clientele of the bar.
Posted on 5/16/20 at 7:17 pm to lsunurse
That’s awesome. Way better than the normal suburban sprawl and shopping center architectural nightmares that currently cover 80% of America.
One complaint about Capitalism is how shitty American architecture is nearly everywhere with few exceptions. Glass, concrete, and steel may be cheap, but they make for absolutely dreadful and oppressive landscapes especially when the bottom line is the only factor considered during planning.
One complaint about Capitalism is how shitty American architecture is nearly everywhere with few exceptions. Glass, concrete, and steel may be cheap, but they make for absolutely dreadful and oppressive landscapes especially when the bottom line is the only factor considered during planning.
Posted on 5/16/20 at 7:21 pm to thadcastle
New Urbanist mixed use developments do exactly this. Probably the first development that did this was Seaside in Florida. You can now find these ideas being used all over.
Posted on 5/16/20 at 7:28 pm to thadcastle
Because NIMBY
Posted on 5/16/20 at 7:33 pm to thadcastle
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I would argue most people who move to the burns are forced to due to property in the city being to expensive and school in the burbs being better. I doubt most people enjoy the longer commute
no. I loved living in the heart of cities from age 23 to age 38 but I’m now so thrilled to be in a suburb 
Posted on 5/16/20 at 7:39 pm to SirWinston
You're almost 40 and still act like a doosh?
Posted on 5/16/20 at 7:43 pm to lsunurse
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They do this in a planned community in a suburb west of Phoenix.
i thought that looked like verrado.
and yes, it's way out, west of west valley!
Posted on 5/16/20 at 7:48 pm to lsunurse
quote:what's the parking like
a planned community in a suburb west of Phoenix.
Actually really nice community....just freaking far from everything (it's about an hour from Scottsdale).
But their neighborhood has it's own main street with grocery store, pharmacy, shops, restaurants, etc.
Posted on 5/16/20 at 7:50 pm to thadcastle
Because nobody wants to live next to a trashy beer joint.
Posted on 5/16/20 at 7:59 pm to Bunsbert Montcroff
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i thought that looked like verrado.
and yes, it's way out, west of west valley!
Is it nice though, I will give it that. Lots for many of the houses small though. My SIL who lives in Goodyear wants to move there so badly. One time driving back from California we stopped to drive around there and check it out. One bonus I guess...you are an hour closer to wherever you want to go in California.
But yeah...that is one hell of a drive...or one expensive arse Uber if you want to go into downtown PHX or Scottsdale and have a nice night out.
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