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re: Why do we subsidize bad behavior in the US

Posted on 1/2/18 at 10:47 am to
Posted by tigerinthebueche
Member since Oct 2010
38241 posts
Posted on 1/2/18 at 10:47 am to
nothing like having your hubcaps stolen to get you questioning the welfare state, eh?
Posted by 50_Tiger
Arlington TX
Member since Jan 2016
43552 posts
Posted on 1/2/18 at 10:50 am to
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I’m raising mine without a dime of government help. That’s why you prioritize and work and don’t buy a bunch of expensive crap if you can’t afford it


I got nothing for you here playa! Much respect.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 1/2/18 at 10:50 am to
Faux compassion
Posted by TH03
Mogadishu
Member since Dec 2008
172004 posts
Posted on 1/2/18 at 10:51 am to
Yeah but you're doing it with white privilege so it's not fair.
Posted by 50_Tiger
Arlington TX
Member since Jan 2016
43552 posts
Posted on 1/2/18 at 10:53 am to
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Yeah but you're doing it with white privilege so it's not fair.


Sadly enough, someone out there in proggyland believes this 100%.
Posted by troyt37
Member since Mar 2008
14688 posts
Posted on 1/2/18 at 11:35 am to
Some of you need to get it out of your head that this is a black/white thing. It's much more of a liberal/conservative thing, and if conservatives thought of it the right way, something might actually be done about it.

This country is still something like 70% white, so if only 5% of white people are on welfare of some kind, they probably outnumber any other race or ethnicity.

Imagine a congressman or senator coming to the floor and telling the country that there are 2 million white people abusing welfare, scamming the system, and defrauding every one of us. Liberals would be out with ropes and pitchforks, and then you could scoop up the whole lot of them, white, black, or otherwise.
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
117289 posts
Posted on 1/2/18 at 12:29 pm to
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quote:"Progressive" Era 16th Amendment 17th Amendment 19th Amendment

I found the woman hater!




"Progressive Era" sees a major expansion of government (state and national) into local economic and social issues to the detriment of local charities, institutions (churches) and state governments.

16th Amendment - greatly expands the potential revenue to the national government - more $$$$ = more spending & more power/intrusion into areas previously untouched. Also comes at the expense of the states (state power and accountability).

17th Amendment - unmoors the Senate from the state governments. Now, only answerable to 50% +1 of the voting population. Become glorified Representatives with longer terms with no concern about having to answer to the state governments who will be directly impacted by national policies.

19th Amendment - infuses "emotional" issues into the voting pool (and requires legislators to respond to/address those issues.
Posted by Tchefuncte Tiger
Bat'n Rudge
Member since Oct 2004
64071 posts
Posted on 1/2/18 at 12:34 pm to
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Is it to artificially prop up retail and grocery? Why can't Walmart and other big box stores pay the full wages for the labor they require.



What does this even mean? What are "full wages?"
Posted by Yellerhammer5
Member since Oct 2012
11051 posts
Posted on 1/2/18 at 12:45 pm to
Did volod just get woke?
Posted by bmy
Nashville
Member since Oct 2007
48203 posts
Posted on 1/2/18 at 1:14 pm to
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Especially when you're pandering to a generally uneducated demographic.


rural republicans?
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
37565 posts
Posted on 1/2/18 at 1:17 pm to
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rural republicans?


Yes along with densely populated urban areas where the education is terrible as well. As much as you may want to make this about race, specifically minorites, it's not. Most low wage jobs are held by uneducated people. By doing something they perceive as "for them" you win their vote forever because they don't look at the specifics of an issue.
This post was edited on 1/2/18 at 1:57 pm
Posted by Ponchy Tiger
Ponchatoula
Member since Aug 2004
50051 posts
Posted on 1/2/18 at 1:23 pm to
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Why do we subsidize bad behavior in the US


This happens everywhere not just the USA
Posted by lsuoilengr
Member since Aug 2008
5473 posts
Posted on 1/2/18 at 2:04 pm to
Here is a man who is wretchedly poor. He is extremely anxious that his surroundings and home comforts should be improved, yet all the time he shirks his work, and considers he is justified in trying to deceive his employer on the ground of the insufficiency of his wages. Such a man does not understand the simplest rudiments of those principles which are the basis of true prosperity, and is not only totally unfitted to rise out of his wretchedness, but is actually attracting to himself a still deeper wretchedness by dwelling in, and acting out, indolent, deceptive, and unmanly thoughts.
Posted by Aristo
Colorado
Member since Jan 2007
13292 posts
Posted on 1/2/18 at 2:05 pm to
Buying votes with your money.
Posted by shawnlsu
Member since Nov 2011
23682 posts
Posted on 1/2/18 at 2:59 pm to
This hook is too good to be true. I sense there is an ulterior motive here and can just about see the argument for "living wages" underneath that sheep's clothing.
Hard pass
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