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re: Why do we have so many more school shootings compared to the rest of the world?
Posted on 8/6/19 at 8:48 pm to EarlyCuyler3
Posted on 8/6/19 at 8:48 pm to EarlyCuyler3
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Cartel violence and executions have far different motives than someone walking into Walmart and unloading.
Except the vast, vast majority of our mass shootings number also include gang violence rather then sociopaths shooting up random people in public places.
Seriously some of these mass shootings include two seperate shootings that happened in the same city in Pennsylvania that each injured two people and so was counted as one mass shooting.
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Posted on 8/6/19 at 8:49 pm to Sidicous
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Except there are some nations that require every citizen to be trained and/or own firearms, either through mandatory military civil service or simple law. (Israel and Switzerland for example, unless medically unfit for service)
The US has more firearms per capita than any country in the world. That's not debatable.
Like double the next closest.
Posted on 8/6/19 at 8:50 pm to 1BamaRTR
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Except the vast, vast majority of our mass shootings number also include gang violence rather then sociopaths shooting up random people in public places.
Seriously some of these mass shootings include two seperate shootings that happened in the same city in Pennsylvania that each injured two people and so was counted as one mass shooting.
Take all of those out - we still lead and it isn't close.
Posted on 8/6/19 at 8:52 pm to Sampson
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I assumed CNN was a legit source but perhaps that was my first mistake
LOL, these lazy shits are using Everytown's bullshite "research". When one of the Boston Marathon bombers was shot on MIT property, Everytown counted that as a "school shooting" in their list of incidents.
Everytown lies about the numbers of school shootings.
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That’s mostly not what Everytown is talking about. At least when The Washington Post reported Everytown’s propaganda, it included some important caveats:
“That data point … includes any discharge of a firearm at a school — including accidents — as a ‘shooting.’ It also includes incidents that happened to take place at a school, whether students were involved or not.”
The Post should have kept including caveats. By Everytown’s criteria, nobody has to be injured and the “shooting” doesn’t actually have to take place on campus, though it does have to be heard on campus or a bullet has to hit somewhere on campus.
If a couple of gang members start shooting each other on a school yard or across the street, that counts as a "school shooting". If someone goes to the parking lot of a school and commits suicide with a firearm, that too is a "school shooting".
This post was edited on 8/6/19 at 8:56 pm
Posted on 8/6/19 at 8:54 pm to Clames
So... tons of shootings at Columbia University because it borders Harlem?
Posted on 8/6/19 at 8:57 pm to 1BamaRTR
The numbers are misleading.. But I think what everyone is talking about are mass shootings like we seen this weekend. The idea that someone can go into a walmart or outside of a bar and just open up fire.
While there are innocent bystanders who are killed in the bad areas, that is mostly drug related. If its the wolves killing the wolves, that's one thing, but the idea that you can go to a movie theater, church, outdoor concert, a store, etc and some random person can come in and just shoot up the place is something that people can relate to..
We are talking about places where people bring their families to.
While there are innocent bystanders who are killed in the bad areas, that is mostly drug related. If its the wolves killing the wolves, that's one thing, but the idea that you can go to a movie theater, church, outdoor concert, a store, etc and some random person can come in and just shoot up the place is something that people can relate to..
We are talking about places where people bring their families to.
Posted on 8/6/19 at 9:02 pm to OweO
Then talk about that, but don't include "wolves vs. wolves" numbers in your statistics to prop up your argument and make a terrible issue look even worse for political expediency.
**Edit to say that I could have just said that you missed the point with a whole lot of words again.**
**Edit to say that I could have just said that you missed the point with a whole lot of words again.**
This post was edited on 8/6/19 at 9:04 pm
Posted on 8/6/19 at 9:05 pm to slackster
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Take all of those out - we still lead and it isn't close.
No where did I say we didn’t. That’s not my point. My point was in reference to his comment about what’s consider mass shootings in Mexico and here, and that the vast majority of shootings in both countries are cartel/gang related.
Posted on 8/6/19 at 9:16 pm to teke184
I count 11-12 or so significant, random shootings at schools since 2009.
Posted on 8/6/19 at 9:17 pm to 1BamaRTR
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No where did I say we didn’t. That’s not my point. My point was in reference to his comment about what’s consider mass shootings in Mexico and here, and that the vast majority of shootings in both countries are cartel/gang related.
Posted on 8/6/19 at 9:18 pm to Sampson
Why do we only look at shootings? Is the assumption that without guns they wouldn't have committed a violent act some other way?
It would be much more accurate to compare populations and demographics, while looking at all school violence.
It would be much more accurate to compare populations and demographics, while looking at all school violence.
Posted on 8/6/19 at 9:22 pm to teke184
Wow! Did you fail reading comprehension?
Terrorists != Students with guns
Terrorists != Students with guns
Posted on 8/6/19 at 9:23 pm to Sampson
Because we are dumb, period. Just because we have some of the smartest does not mean we have the dumbest idiots too.
Posted on 8/6/19 at 9:29 pm to strings
School shootings = someone at school who GETS frickING SHOT, not “a student shot everyone up”
Was Adam Lanza a student at Sandy Hook Elementary? No, but the kids he shot were.
Was Adam Lanza a student at Sandy Hook Elementary? No, but the kids he shot were.
Posted on 8/6/19 at 9:41 pm to Sampson
We haven't even had that many mass shootings since 2009 per the FBI and NIJ so something's way off.
Posted on 8/6/19 at 9:42 pm to OweO
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The numbers are misleading.. But I think what everyone is talking about are mass shootings like we seen this weekend. The idea that someone can go into a walmart or outside of a bar and just open up fire.
While there are innocent bystanders who are killed in the bad areas, that is mostly drug related. If its the wolves killing the wolves, that's one thing, but the idea that you can go to a movie theater, church, outdoor concert, a store, etc and some random person can come in and just shoot up the place is something that people can relate to..
We are talking about places where people bring their families to.
So what would you do?
Posted on 8/6/19 at 9:44 pm to ScubaTiger
quote:Richer, more sensationalist and more unaccepting of perceived oppression.
What is the one thing that is different about the U.S. from other 1st world countries?
Posted on 8/6/19 at 9:47 pm to Sampson
It's time to ban ARs.
Too many crazies can access them.
Im conservative, but realistic.
Too many crazies can access them.
Im conservative, but realistic.
Posted on 8/6/19 at 9:48 pm to Flashback
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It's time to ban ARs
Virginia Tech shooter killed over 30 with 2 handguns.
Posted on 8/6/19 at 9:57 pm to Kujo
For frick’s sake.
Do you people read posts?
I posted here in page 3 that there have been 10 significant school shootings in the last 20 fricking years and you people just keep going.
Do you people read posts?
I posted here in page 3 that there have been 10 significant school shootings in the last 20 fricking years and you people just keep going.
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