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re: Why do so many southern areas refer to themselves as americans on ancestry surveys?
Posted on 10/28/17 at 9:08 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
Posted on 10/28/17 at 9:08 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
Because they are by and large, ignorant as frick. Go read the "political" board.
Posted on 10/28/17 at 9:33 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
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The midwest, the west, the northeast.....all answer it like you'd expect. Where your ANCESTORS LEFT to come here./
My ancestors weren't racist they left from lots of places and got it on with whoever.
USA.
Posted on 10/28/17 at 9:54 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
Why did you give yourself the only upvote?
Posted on 10/28/17 at 10:55 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
Yankee carpetbagger much?
Posted on 10/28/17 at 11:51 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
So you’re trying to say a lot of southerns could use affirmative action to their benefit and they aren’t? Good point I guess.
Posted on 10/28/17 at 11:53 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
I'll answer your question with more questions.
Why do people from Cuba refer themselves as Cuban? Many of their families came from Europe and only stayed in Cuba for 2 or 3 generations.
Why do people from Mexico refer to themselves as Mexican?
Having considered those two questions, why is it odd to refer to yourself as American if your family has been in America for 7+ generations?
Why do people from Cuba refer themselves as Cuban? Many of their families came from Europe and only stayed in Cuba for 2 or 3 generations.
Why do people from Mexico refer to themselves as Mexican?
Having considered those two questions, why is it odd to refer to yourself as American if your family has been in America for 7+ generations?
This post was edited on 10/29/17 at 12:38 am
Posted on 10/28/17 at 11:57 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
I am so mixed all I know is I am American
Northeast they don't mix as much
Northeast they don't mix as much
Posted on 10/28/17 at 11:59 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
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they are asking which region of the world your original immigrant families came from.
they came from Tennessee, Louisiana, and Mississippi.
If a girl with a vagina can say that she is a boy, why in the frick can't I say "I identify with being a mother frickin' American?"
Posted on 10/29/17 at 1:24 am to BeepNode
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Having considered those two questions, why is it odd to refer to yourself as American if your family has been in America for 7+ generations?
It’s not odd at all. But the question is not “what nationality are you?” The question is about where your ancestors hail from. Yes if you want to be technical about it, you can quibble about what counts as an ancestor or say everyone cane from Africa or whatever. But obviously the survey is asking what European country white people came from.
Posted on 10/29/17 at 10:07 am to HailHailtoMichigan!
So my last name is Spanish or Portuguese. But I also have French, German and Native American that I know of. My daughter recently had her DNA tested and very little from the regions of Spain or Portugal showed up, no Native American ( despite the fact that her maternal great great grandmother was half Cherokee). Lots of English and German and about 1% sub Saharan Africa ( who knew). What should she check? How about American?
Posted on 10/29/17 at 10:18 am to HailHailtoMichigan!
A lot of us do not live in homogeneous communities.
Just going by my last name, you could claim German or French as my ancestors immigrated from a German speaking area of France that has changed hands numerous times.
This then totally disregards my Spanish, Polish, Ukrainian, Irish, and other European ancestry.
Just going by my last name, you could claim German or French as my ancestors immigrated from a German speaking area of France that has changed hands numerous times.
This then totally disregards my Spanish, Polish, Ukrainian, Irish, and other European ancestry.
Posted on 10/29/17 at 10:30 am to biglego
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obviously the survey is asking what European country white people came from.
Then why didn’t they just frickING ASK THAT?
Posted on 10/29/17 at 12:07 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
Because southerners don't worry about the ancestry of who they marry. Thus, they aren't a majority of any particular ancestral group. What are you going to answer when you are 10% Irish, 10% Scottish, 10% German, 10% English, and part African and Indian to boot?
In the northeast especially, and other parts of the USA, Italians marry Italians, Jews marry Jews, and Poles marry Poles.
In the northeast especially, and other parts of the USA, Italians marry Italians, Jews marry Jews, and Poles marry Poles.
Posted on 10/29/17 at 12:15 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
Because when does your “ancestry” start? 1, 5, 10 generations back?
Posted on 10/29/17 at 12:28 pm to ChEgrad
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What are you going to answer when you are 10% Irish, 10% Scottish, 10% German, 10% English, and part African and Indian to boot?
Bingo!
Also, notice that it has “African American” and not just “African”. Makes no sense.
Posted on 10/29/17 at 12:35 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
I'm 100% American. Both my parents are too.
And I was born here, so I'm 100% Native American too.
Not a fan of these Indians and their casinos claiming exclusive rights to 'Native' status.
And I was born here, so I'm 100% Native American too.
Not a fan of these Indians and their casinos claiming exclusive rights to 'Native' status.
Posted on 10/29/17 at 1:03 pm to Darth_Vader
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I wonder why you're offended people identify with a country that's existed since 1776 but you have no problem that far more people identify as German when that country has only existed since 1871.
(For those who don't know shite about history, before the founding of The German Empire in January 1871, the people who lived in what we now consider "Germany" were far more likely to identify with whatever area (like Barvaria, Saxony, Prussia, etc) they lived in than as "German". So in other words, people have been calling themselves "American" almost 100 years longer than they've been calling themselves Germans.)
The people of that region have been called Germans since the Middle Ages and the time of the Holy Roman Empire. It's no different than someone calling themselves a Louisianan and an American.
Posted on 10/29/17 at 1:11 pm to BeepNode
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I'll answer your question with more questions.
Why do people from Cuba refer themselves as Cuban? Many of their families came from Europe and only stayed in Cuba for 2 or 3 generations.
Why do people from Mexico refer to themselves as Mexican?
Having considered those two questions, why is it odd to refer to yourself as American if your family has been in America for 7+ generations?
Because racial mixing in those countries was/is a lot more prominent than in the U.S. For example, the large majority of Mexicans are Mestizo, which means they are a mixture of native ancestry and European Hispanic ancestry.
Posted on 10/29/17 at 1:24 pm to biglego
My ancestors (of only one line) immigrated from England to America about 300 years ago. About 700 years before that they went from Normandy to England when William invaded and conquered the country. Before that who knows where they came from. There are some rumors that they were Roman settlers in the north of modern day France. I'm sure along the way they mixed with all kinds of different "ancestry."
At what point does trying to claim ancestry from a single place become completely meaningless? Because trying to claim my ancestry as being English seems completely meaningless to me. Maybe I claim Scotch-Irish because that's what my ancestors probably mixed the most with spending most of the last 300 years in the American South? I don't know. That seems pretty meaningless too. I'm American.
At what point does trying to claim ancestry from a single place become completely meaningless? Because trying to claim my ancestry as being English seems completely meaningless to me. Maybe I claim Scotch-Irish because that's what my ancestors probably mixed the most with spending most of the last 300 years in the American South? I don't know. That seems pretty meaningless too. I'm American.
This post was edited on 10/29/17 at 1:34 pm
Posted on 10/29/17 at 3:49 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
Livingston Parish, 'Murica.
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