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re: Why do so many have Celiac disease?

Posted on 5/31/19 at 9:30 am to
Posted by windshieldman
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Posted on 5/31/19 at 9:30 am to
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Windshieldman, are you in Louisiana?


Yes
Posted by windshieldman
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 5/31/19 at 9:34 am to
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serious question how did these people survive in the past... gluten filled world


Many of them died, it happened back then also. I have a family member who does our family history stuff and has a big book written. I had some long ago cousin or uncle in early 1900s that was some kind of shrimp or crab fisherman. He had a story of a guy dying his first day after touching either crab or shrimp, I can’t remember which, it was also my relatives first day and he nearly said frick all that. Guy had “red bumps” and “big tongue” and fell over and went blue were his words iirc. That would be from anaphylaxis

Eta: Also my great grandmother was a teacher in rural north La back in the 30s era. Not many kids had any peanut butter but the allergies to it were at least known about back then in the schools. It just wasn’t actually called peanut allergies back then or at least in her circle
This post was edited on 5/31/19 at 9:37 am
Posted by BulldogXero
Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 5/31/19 at 9:51 am to
There's a difference in a food allergy and celiace disease. Since my GB surgery, I don't tolerate certain foods as well as I used to, but I don't go around telling people I have full blown Celiac disease.

Celiac is an actual medical diagnosis.
Posted by junior
baton rouge
Member since Mar 2005
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Posted on 5/31/19 at 10:01 am to
Pizza should be easy for your wife. Rotolos, red Zeppelin, Dominos, and Mellow Mushroom all have GF pizza.
GF beer is around but trickier. Happy to swap recs for restaurants if interested.

Posted by pelicansfan123
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Posted on 5/31/19 at 10:05 am to
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Posted by junior
baton rouge
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Posted on 5/31/19 at 10:25 am to
FWIW- celiac disease has a strong family inheritance. If your dad has it, 50% chance his kids/siblings have it.
Posted by pelicansfan123
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Posted on 5/31/19 at 10:40 am to
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Posted by Tiger n Austin
Austin, Tx
Member since Dec 2005
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Posted on 5/31/19 at 11:00 am to
I used to be in the "what's with all this gluten free nonsense...that's shite is all in your head". But then my son was diagnosed with Celiac and we changed his diet and now he is putting on weight and is not throwing up every 3 seconds.
Posted by TigerSprings
Southeast LA
Member since Jan 2019
2416 posts
Posted on 5/31/19 at 11:04 am to
It's the fluoride in the water!!!!!
Posted by SugarAggie
Member since Mar 2019
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Posted on 5/31/19 at 11:06 am to
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Pizza should be easy for your wife. Rotolos, red Zeppelin, Dominos, and Mellow Mushroom all have GF pizza.
GF beer is around but trickier. Happy to swap recs for restaurants if interested.


Surprisingly Omission isn’t all that bad for a lager styled gluten free beer. But damn I miss having a shiner bock at times. Pizza is really tough. No one can make a decent crust that doesn’t taste like you are eating cardboard. If you happen to live in New York City then you are luck. There is a place called Pizzarte that makes an amazing gluten free pizza.
Posted by Dave Worth
Metairie
Member since Dec 2003
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Posted on 5/31/19 at 11:20 am to
My wife was having some big issues with her stomach. A lot of aches and cramping to go along with some bathroom issues. Lasted a couple months and many tests with no answer. Went through a lot of stuff, too. A liver test showed she has a much larger than average liver. All liver function is fine so the working theory is she just has a large liver, but that was fun thinking it could be liver disease or cancer.

Finally she was able to get scoped from top and bottom. Came back that she has microscopic colitis. This is something that could clear up with proper care or never go away...just depends on the person and severity. She was prescribed a medicine, but internet reading showed lots of people who felt worse taking it.

Basically she had to cut out all gluten and all dairy. She's not necessarily allergic to all gluten and dairy though. Over time she is supposed to reintroduce different things and see how they go. After a few weeks she felt much better and all of the symptoms were gone. She feels so good she hasn't really tried to add too much back even though she misses food.

Now she'll have a glass or two of wine sometimes. On vacation she made a pina colada or two each day using coconut milk (I think). She has had work trips where it was difficult to really regulate everything. Usually she ends up fine but sometimes has a flare up. My (non medical) guess is that she's benefited from cutting it all out and something "bad" here or there isn't enough to trigger the bad symptoms.

The thing she really misses is cheese (the dairy issue). There is no good cheese substitute that we've found for something like pizza. Gluten free pasta isn't too bad, especially when it's hot and fresh. Leftover gluten free pasta isn't one of my favorites.
Posted by 225Tyga
Member since Oct 2013
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Posted on 5/31/19 at 11:26 am to
So what happens if she eats gluten?
Posted by whitefoot
Franklin, TN
Member since Aug 2006
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Posted on 5/31/19 at 11:27 am to
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Pizza should be easy for your wife. Rotolos, red Zeppelin, Dominos, and Mellow Mushroom all have GF pizza.

I would be wary of cross contamination. All of these places have so much wheat flower in their kitchens, I would be surprised if they could pull off a gluten free pizza with gluten levels low enough for someone with celiac disease.
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GF beer is around but trickier.

I haven't seen any gluten free beer. I've only seen beer that says gluten "removed". The dietitian we met with the other day indicated that this isn't good enough for a celiac patient.
Posted by KamaCausey_LSU
Member since Apr 2013
17834 posts
Posted on 5/31/19 at 11:28 am to
Underdeveloped gut microbiomes from decades of oversanitization and antibiotics. Or at least that's one hypothesis on it.

Not celiacs but the allergy type symptoms of common things.
This post was edited on 5/31/19 at 11:31 am
Posted by chris911guy
Milton, FL
Member since Jan 2012
197 posts
Posted on 5/31/19 at 11:50 am to
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I haven't seen any gluten free beer. I've only seen beer that says gluten "removed". The dietitian we met with the other day indicated that this isn't good enough for a celiac patient.



Glutenberg and New Grist are the best Gluten free beers I've found so far. They are true gluten free, not gluten removed, and while not as good as what I was able to drink before, they are growing on me; especially the New Grist.

As far as pizza, Domino's scares the crap out of me unless I can watch them make it, I have found that locally (Pensacola and Gulf Breeze) Mellow Mushroom and Rotolo's are pretty accommodating and I haven't had any ill effects. Of course I don't eat out all that often so it's a small sample size.
Posted by madmaxvol
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Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 5/31/19 at 11:55 am to
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Do you think they are all Celiacs? Or is it just gluten free is trendy?



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It has been speculated that the increase in celiac disease may have occurred because of changes in wheat proteins that resulted from wheat breeding—mainly an increase in the gluten content,4 which is directly proportional to protein content.


ETA... LINK

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Most wheats used for breadmaking are ABD hexaploid wheats with “hard” endosperm texture, but there are hexaploid wheat varieties/cultivars with “soft” texture that are used mainly for pastry and cake baking. Hard wheats have been selected for higher protein content than soft wheats and, for breadmaking, higher protein content (about 12–14%) is usually desirable.


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Some papers from the first half of the 20th century indicated protein contents ranging from 8.77 to 14.26% for various samples of hard winter wheats.


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Bread is the most common wheat-based food in the United States, although pastries and pasta are also widely consumed. Because bread wheats in the United States range in protein content from about 11 to about 16%





Basically, we have been eating more bread with higher protein content in the latter part of the 20th century (the wheat consumed in the first half of the century had lower protein content)...increased protein sensitivity ensued.

This post was edited on 5/31/19 at 11:59 am
Posted by tilco
Spanish Fort, AL
Member since Nov 2013
14609 posts
Posted on 5/31/19 at 12:06 pm to
I have celiacs. I don’t need a doctor to diagnose what my body is telling me. Y’all keep putting that poison in your body tho....
Posted by deathvalleydry
Member since Sep 2018
2 posts
Posted on 5/31/19 at 12:07 pm to
Too much processed gluten. Most celiacs can handle proper fermented gluten
Posted by whitefoot
Franklin, TN
Member since Aug 2006
11195 posts
Posted on 5/31/19 at 12:15 pm to
Y'all act like this is a new thing. Celiac disease can be traced back to the inception of agriculture in the stone age.
Posted by dawgsjw
Member since Dec 2012
2114 posts
Posted on 5/31/19 at 11:28 pm to
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If you could read, you would note that the article
Oh so now it is about the article? Not about you or the others saying that people don't have it. No wonder why you talk in 3rd person because you so stupid.

You quoted a guy who said "They don't" (to the topic question) and agreed with him by saying "This." Obviously you and many others are acting as if it is some made up disease and then your stupid a$$ immediately posts a quote saying that it affects 3+ million. Talk about stooooopid.
This post was edited on 5/31/19 at 11:29 pm
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