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re: Why do people insist on driving fast through subdivisions?

Posted on 11/2/18 at 9:54 am to
Posted by Tigertown in ATL
Georgia foothills
Member since Sep 2009
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Posted on 11/2/18 at 9:54 am to
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logical reason for driving 10 miles over the speed limit in a subdivision


I've watched the people speeding past our house. I honestly believe most of them are just not thinking. Very few are gunning it.

I don't think it's that they want to save time. It would save them probably 15 seconds based on where they are going.
Posted by mouton
Savannah,Ga
Member since Aug 2006
28276 posts
Posted on 11/2/18 at 10:45 am to
You are probably right. Just unaware.
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
71148 posts
Posted on 11/2/18 at 10:50 am to
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That is a civic planning and POS developer issue and should be addressed with the local government, residential streets should never be laid out in a manner that encourages using them as cut throughs or alternates.


I disagree. The problem isn't that these roads are cut throughs, the problem is that there're the ONLY cut-throughs. We need more street inner-connectivity not less. Baton Rouge traffic is so terrible in part due to the fact that so many surface streets do not connect, which forces traffic to bottle-neck onto very few avenues to get around. That's why when a random cut-through is found, it becomes highly exploited. If Baton Rouge's streets were more grid-like like New Orleans, it wouldn't be nearly as big of an issue because there would be far more routes down which traffic could diffuse rather than it being channelled and funneled onto the same few streets.
Posted by mouton
Savannah,Ga
Member since Aug 2006
28276 posts
Posted on 11/2/18 at 11:05 am to
Logical reason for driving 10 miles over the speed limit in a subdivision especially one that is not a cut-through?
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
71148 posts
Posted on 11/2/18 at 11:16 am to
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Logical reason for driving 10 miles over the speed limit in a subdivision especially one that is not a cut-through?


Because speed limits in many residential neighborhoods are posted arbitrarily low for the driving conditions. Most are perfectly safe to drive at 35-40mph rather than 25 mph.

Like I said before, if I'm going 33% over the speed limit in the residential neighborhood with a low speed limit, I'm likely going 33% over the speed limit most everywhere the conditions allow. That consistent speeding results in massive time savings reaped over the aggregate.
Posted by mouton
Savannah,Ga
Member since Aug 2006
28276 posts
Posted on 11/2/18 at 11:22 am to
But you are basically saving no more than seconds in the subdivision.

Let me ask you this. All things considered, is it safer to drive 25mph in a subdivision or 40 mph in the same subdivision?
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
71148 posts
Posted on 11/2/18 at 11:23 am to
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is it safer to drive 25mph in a subdivision or 40 mph in the same subdivision?


Depends entirely upon the subdivision. In some, it's really not, and in some it really is.

In my defense, I have never once lived in a subdivision. I've always lived either on rural state highways where people drive 70mph or on gridded city streets with either relatively high speed limits or stop signs ever 100 ft.

I really don't drive in classic dead-end subdivisions very often.
This post was edited on 11/2/18 at 11:25 am
Posted by mouton
Savannah,Ga
Member since Aug 2006
28276 posts
Posted on 11/2/18 at 11:28 am to
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Depends entirely upon the subdivision. In some, it's really not, and in some it really is.


So in a subdivision with lots of young children say you are on a straight section of street where the speed limit is 25. If a child suddenly runs out into the street chasing a ball you can stop or swerve to miss the child just as easily going 40 as opposed to going 25?
Posted by jchamil
Member since Nov 2009
19886 posts
Posted on 11/2/18 at 11:30 am to
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So in a subdivision with lots of young children say you are on a straight section of street where the speed limit is 25. If a child suddenly runs out into the street chasing a ball you can stop or swerve to miss the child just as easily going 40 as opposed to going 25?


Saving 33% of 50 seconds is more important than the small chance a kid runs out in the street
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
71148 posts
Posted on 11/2/18 at 11:32 am to
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If a child suddenly runs out into the street chasing a ball you can stop or swerve to miss the child just as easily going 40 as opposed to going 25?


If we're talking about a subdivision with no street parking and relatively unobscured views of their front yards and minimum traffic in the opposite lane, well, yeah, I can see it coming. I can see that there is a child playing near the street in the yard ahead and slow down before I get there because I'm watching the road and paying attention to the driving conditions.

On the other hand, a subdivision where street parking obscures views of people's front yards or shrubs and foliage obscure what's ahead of me, then no. I could not maneuver as well at the increased speed. But, in that case, I likely wouldn't be driving as fast to begin with because those are obvious red-flag conditions.

Like I said, I drive as fast as I can safely go (for myself and others) based on the conditions of the road and surroundings.

You attempting to turn that statement into a "gotcha" is pretty damn pathetic.
Posted by buffbraz
Member since Nov 2005
5761 posts
Posted on 11/2/18 at 11:36 am to
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Just curious...were the girl and the dog walking in the street or on the sidewalk? Hopefully not in the street...that's obviously a stupid thing to do.


Most neighborhoods don't have sidewalks. Are you supposed to walk your dog in the ditches and culverts?
Posted by HeyHeyHogsAllTheWay
Member since Feb 2017
12458 posts
Posted on 11/2/18 at 11:44 am to
The rampant stupidity exhibited in this thread by people who are all "I save 2 seconds a day over the course of 20 years, frick your kid" is yet another example of why the best option is to not have neighbors.
Posted by mouton
Savannah,Ga
Member since Aug 2006
28276 posts
Posted on 11/2/18 at 12:18 pm to
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You attempting to turn that statement into a "gotcha" is pretty damn pathetic.


What is pathetic is you not being able to admit that you can not stop as quickly going 40 as you can going 25.

What is pathetic is you saying it is the kids fault for not being smart enough to go out into the street rather you just being a decent human being and going the damn speed limit in a neighborhood full of young children.
Posted by Tempratt
Member since Oct 2013
15307 posts
Posted on 11/2/18 at 2:02 pm to
Because the frickers think their time is worth more than that of a child that they kill.

Posted by mouton
Savannah,Ga
Member since Aug 2006
28276 posts
Posted on 11/2/18 at 2:32 pm to
Maybe they are just masterful drivers like Kingbob ?
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