re: Why do men still get conned into marriage when there are no benefits for men to marry?

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If you’re deep into your 30s or 40s and you’re still dating around (remember the biggest benefit espoused by the never marry people is that you get to date around without consequence) then I just assume you have something wrong with you.

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Not directed at you in particular, since i realize that many people feel this way- but this to me highlights how fricking stupid most people are…. I myself am divorced, but if someone is smart enough, or lucky enough, to avoid all the misery and expense and heartbreak that comes along with divorce - then they should be celebrated and congratulated, IMO… if anyone looks at someone who has stayed single and avoided being a statistic, one of the 50% of marriages that end up failing- then in my opinion that person is a success, and anyone who looks at them and thinks ‘oh there must be something wrong with that guy’ is an absolute moron .. again though, most people are dictated by emotions not logic, and are in fact just lazy in their thinking .

You don't have to get married if you don't want to.
Pleny of people in monogamous long term relationships.
To suggest that women are to blame for pushing marriage, and subsequent failed marriage, is a misguided view.
Women are often the bread winners in relationships.
Plenty of upside for men that find the right partner and want to commit to each other.

Seems like many on this board think that women are evil.

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Not directed at you in particular, since i realize that many people feel this way- but this to me highlights how fricking stupid most people are…. I myself am divorced, but if someone is smart enough, or lucky enough, to avoid all the misery and expense and heartbreak that comes along with divorce - then they should be celebrated and congratulated, IMO… if anyone looks at someone who has stayed single and avoided being a statistic, one of the 50% of marriages that end up failing- then in my opinion that person is a success, and anyone who looks at them and thinks ‘oh there must be something wrong with that guy’ is an absolute moron .. again though, most people are dictated by emotions not logic, and are in fact just lazy in their thinking .

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I understand your point to an extent

Its still infinitely more challenging to marry someone and stay with them than it is to remain single to avoid divorce. I know, I was older single/never married guy for a LONG time.

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I agree it’s quite washed now, but it’s also true that agnostics/atheist morals are Christian morals. Christianity has majority influence on our beliefs and ideas. I’ve always thought there were moral truths, but not so sure anymore.

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Morality is derived from our basic observation that we are better off as a species when we combine our efforts in a structured society - and that goes back a hell of a lot further than Christianity.

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So a rich guy said he doesn't respect people who aren't married? Is that the only qualifier?

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That rich guy probably used to also say he didn’t respect people who were (______). Someway, somehow, society had a way of making him care

Having 34 years of married experience, I can say you could not be more wrong.

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let it go bud

you seem mad

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Why would I be mad?

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My wife and I don't have the best of relationships but we give it all for the kids.

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What are y'all going to do when the kids are gone?

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I wish I was bi. I'd marry a man who loves sports and loves to decorate and have a clean home and hook up with random women.

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christ lmao