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re: Why do cops leave their cars running?

Posted on 8/8/24 at 1:44 pm to
Posted by jbgleason
Bailed out of BTR to God's Country
Member since Mar 2012
19801 posts
Posted on 8/8/24 at 1:44 pm to
Turn computer and shite off when not working? Those laptops can come out of the car too.
Posted by rd280z
Richmond
Member since Jan 2007
2466 posts
Posted on 8/8/24 at 1:45 pm to
Because they don't pay for the gas.
Posted by VanRIch
Wherever
Member since Sep 2007
11498 posts
Posted on 8/8/24 at 1:47 pm to
Because they’re not powered on
Posted by achenator
Member since Oct 2014
3241 posts
Posted on 8/8/24 at 2:37 pm to
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Turn computer and shite off when not working? Those laptops can come out of the car too.


I really don't think that cops get designated break time. They are still on call while eating lunch or whatever. If they get a call they may need their computer immediately and not wait for everything to boot up, on top of keeping everything cool. When they start their car after being off shift I would imagine there is a protocol of cooling the car down before stating everything up again.
Posted by sayitisntso
Member since May 2021
26 posts
Posted on 8/8/24 at 4:38 pm to
Former leo…. Used to leave it running for reason stated above. Needed to make sure I could respond as quickly as possible at any given moment. Keeping equipment cool was second to that. Since technically I was paying for my own gas as a taxpayer as well I took that seriously and didn’t leave it on unnecessarily on duty. Off duty I removed everything until I went back on shift again. No designated lunch breaks either. Eat when you can and some days you didn’t. I also went the extra mile and waxed my car once a week and kept it looking as it should because of the fact that it was paid for by the public.
This post was edited on 8/8/24 at 4:41 pm
Posted by Boudreauboudreaugoly
Land of the Rice n Son
Member since Oct 2017
2682 posts
Posted on 8/8/24 at 5:24 pm to
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why? It seems so wasteful


If they had to pay for the gas, you can bet your arse they wouldn’t leave them running.
Posted by Shanegolang
Denham Springs, La
Member since Sep 2015
4747 posts
Posted on 8/8/24 at 5:28 pm to
1. Because tax payers pay for their gasoline. 2. They keeping the AC going.
Posted by pwejr88
Red Stick
Member since Apr 2007
37553 posts
Posted on 8/8/24 at 6:36 pm to
quote:

If they don't keep them idle while they're doing whatever cop thing they're doing. Because of the electronics and shite that's piled in that car, the batteries will go dead immediately.


Right path but no.

It’s because when their cruiser first starts up, it takes an insane amount of time for all the electronics to boot up. When on duty, they need to be ready to act at any given second.
Posted by achenator
Member since Oct 2014
3241 posts
Posted on 8/8/24 at 6:52 pm to
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If they had to pay for the gas, you can bet your arse they wouldn’t leave them running.


They probably use less than half a gallon an hour idling. So $1.50 an hour? Yeah I'd leave it idling even if i had to pay and made a cops salary.
Posted by achenator
Member since Oct 2014
3241 posts
Posted on 8/8/24 at 6:56 pm to
Some of you guys probably get pissed when you see fire trucks at the grocery store too lol. The gym by my house 500 feet from the fire station. The firefighters drive the trucks over there. Response time is everything.
Posted by billjamin
Houston
Member since Jun 2019
16495 posts
Posted on 8/8/24 at 6:56 pm to
quote:

because we pay for their fuel

The only right answer.
Posted by billjamin
Houston
Member since Jun 2019
16495 posts
Posted on 8/8/24 at 7:00 pm to
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They probably use less than half a gallon an hour idling. So $1.50 an hour? Yeah I'd leave it idling even if i had to pay and made a cops salary.

X number of cars X number of hours on duty = a lot of money.

I’ve told this story before. I worked for a large utility service company and they decided to give me the fleet department. The safety guys made every crew leave one truck running on location at all times to have a spot to cool off in the summer. We were spending about $90k per week on excessive idling fuel consumption by the time it went across all the business units.

They sent that safety guy packing after they saw the bills.
This post was edited on 8/8/24 at 7:01 pm
Posted by achenator
Member since Oct 2014
3241 posts
Posted on 8/8/24 at 7:04 pm to
quote:

X number of cars X number of hours on duty = a lot of money.

there is a ton of waste out there for sure but not a hill i'm willing to die on here. as previously stated by a LEO they keep everything booted up and ready to go. Also I can't really expect a cop to sit in a 115 degree car wearing body armor.
Posted by 0x15E
Outer Space
Member since Sep 2020
14735 posts
Posted on 8/8/24 at 7:06 pm to
quote:

If they don't keep them idle while they're doing whatever cop thing they're doing.


Eating at Chick-fil-A?
Posted by billjamin
Houston
Member since Jun 2019
16495 posts
Posted on 8/8/24 at 7:11 pm to
quote:

there is a ton of waste out there for sure but not a hill i'm willing to die on here. as previously stated by a LEO they keep everything booted up and ready to go. Also I can't really expect a cop to sit in a 115 degree car wearing body armor.

I've heard the reasons why. I'm just not convinced there isn't something better that can be done. It costs tax payers a shite load of money.
Posted by HerkFlyer
Auburn, AL
Member since Jan 2018
3211 posts
Posted on 8/8/24 at 7:23 pm to
The same reason that the DoD is able to buy factory deleted diesel pickups when no one else can. It’s the government.
Posted by N2cars
Close by
Member since Feb 2008
37874 posts
Posted on 8/8/24 at 7:39 pm to
The inside of a car does get super-hot, very quickly, but the "electronics" execuse is overused, and likely untrue.



Posted by billjamin
Houston
Member since Jun 2019
16495 posts
Posted on 8/8/24 at 7:42 pm to
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The inside of a car does get super-hot, very quickly, but the "electronics" execuse is overused, and likely untrue.

When they’re in it, I get it. But when they aren’t, excluding K-9 units, they just need to put a APC in for the electronics if it’s that big of a deal. Fuel cost is only one part, other maintenance is accelerated as well.

This is why I think they need to buy more PHEVs for LEO vehicles.
This post was edited on 8/8/24 at 7:47 pm
Posted by doliss
Northern VA
Member since Sep 2009
1045 posts
Posted on 8/8/24 at 7:43 pm to
same reason other emergency response vehicles are constantly running when out of the stations. the electronics in the vehicles would drain the batteries very quickly if it wasn't running or plugged into a shoreline at the station
Posted by achenator
Member since Oct 2014
3241 posts
Posted on 8/8/24 at 7:49 pm to
quote:

The inside of a car does get super-hot, very quickly, but the "electronics" execuse is overused, and likely untrue.



the heat or the reboot time? or both?
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