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re: Why can't our climate agreements and policies reduce atmospheric CO2 trends?
Posted on 8/4/22 at 10:41 am to GumboPot
Posted on 8/4/22 at 10:41 am to GumboPot
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Is the frequency of volcanic eruptions increasing or is the technology to detect the eruptions simply better?
Good question. Possibly both.
Posted on 8/4/22 at 10:51 am to Korkstand
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Human activity emits 100 times more, about 35 Gt.
That depends on the source. Depending on the study(ies) you use you can find amounts anywhere from 14 Gt to 21 - 36 Gt.
Posted on 8/4/22 at 11:00 am to Bard
None of which matters because the atmopsheric concentration that drives warming and the relationship between warming and said concentration is an inverse log, which has been known forevor. But, conveniently ignored.
The first 100 ppm force a good bit of warming, after that its very little. The MORE you increase CO2, the less forcing it has. Like covering yourself in blankets. First blanket keeps your realy warm, 2nd, little more warming, third, not much 4th throught 1000th almost no additional heat trapping.
Look up Beer-Lambert Law.
The first 100 ppm force a good bit of warming, after that its very little. The MORE you increase CO2, the less forcing it has. Like covering yourself in blankets. First blanket keeps your realy warm, 2nd, little more warming, third, not much 4th throught 1000th almost no additional heat trapping.
Look up Beer-Lambert Law.
Posted on 8/4/22 at 11:03 am to GumboPot
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So you mean to tell me the whole reason God put humans on this Earth was to create CO2 emissions in order to save the planet? Without us the CO2 levels would become so low the Earth’s vegetation dies off. I like this spin
Posted on 8/4/22 at 11:03 am to Bard
And, I would imagine a major reason many of those countries have been able to continue to reduce their carbon emissions, is by moving manufacturing to China/India
Posted on 8/4/22 at 11:05 am to Bard
quote:Can you point out or quote from your first link where it says 14Gt? All I see is it says every person emits 2 tons per year by eating, and that represents about 20% of total emissions. You might need to multiply that 14 Gt by 5 if you put any stock in that study.
That depends on the source. Depending on the study(ies) you use you can find amounts anywhere from 14 Gt to 21 - 36 Gt.
Posted on 8/4/22 at 11:06 am to BilltheTiger
quote:There are literally thousands of sources a mere google search away, but you strike me as the type that disregards a lot of sources. Let's start by you giving me a very short list of sources you trust and I'll find one for ya.
Please cite your source for this statement.
Posted on 8/4/22 at 11:06 am to geauxturbo
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The first 100 ppm force a good bit of warming, after that its very little. The MORE you increase CO2, the less forcing it has. Like covering yourself in blankets. First blanket keeps your realy warm, 2nd, little more warming, third, not much 4th throught 1000th almost no additional heat trapping.
This is a chart showing this principle:
LINK
Posted on 8/4/22 at 12:16 pm to BilltheTiger
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Volcanoes and volcanic regions alone outgas an estimated 280-360 million tonnes (0.28 to 0.36 Gt) of CO2 per year.
Human activity emits 100 times more, about 35 Gt.
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Please cite your source for this statement.
BilltheTiger
Did you even read any of the links at the top of the tread? What a pompous dumbass you are.
This post was edited on 8/4/22 at 12:17 pm
Posted on 8/4/22 at 12:33 pm to Korkstand
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Can you point out or quote from your first link where it says 14Gt? All I see is it says every person emits 2 tons per year by eating, and that represents about 20% of total emissions.
2Gt annually emitted by ~7B people = 14Gt
The discrepancies between the amount goes to how much of a crapshoot such an attempted estimate is. For instance, are simple herders in the Caucuses creating as much as someone like John Kerry?
This post was edited on 8/4/22 at 12:36 pm
Posted on 8/4/22 at 1:16 pm to Bard
quote:Again, that is from eating, and it represents roughly 20% of total human emissions (the rest by burning fuels and industrial processes, etc.)
2Gt annually emitted by ~7B people = 14Gt
quote:Do we trust the estimates of volcanic emissions? And does it really make a difference to you whether humans emit 50 times or 100 times more than volcanoes?
The discrepancies between the amount goes to how much of a crapshoot such an attempted estimate is.
If you want to argue that none of it matters, that's fine. But bringing up volcanic vs. human emissions is not the angle you want to play.
This post was edited on 8/4/22 at 1:18 pm
Posted on 8/4/22 at 1:36 pm to Weekend Warrior79
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And, I would imagine a major reason many of those countries have been able to continue to reduce their carbon emissions, is by moving manufacturing to China/India
That's probably the main reason.
Posted on 8/4/22 at 1:50 pm to Korkstand
Might want to add in wildfire contribution to co2. In Alaska this summer there are currently 500 fires in progress totaling more than 3 million acres. Times the rest of the globe and there might be some co2 that is not man sourced
Posted on 8/4/22 at 1:51 pm to Korkstand
quote:Fox and other idiots with zero education on the subject are his sources.
but you strike me as the type that disregards a lot of sources
Posted on 8/4/22 at 1:51 pm to GumboPot
The goals of US climate policy so far have been to cripple the US economy and redistribute wealth.
Posted on 8/4/22 at 2:14 pm to Trevaylin
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Might want to add in wildfire contribution to co2. In Alaska this summer there are currently 500 fires in progress totaling more than 3 million acres.
Meh,
Posted on 8/12/22 at 7:36 pm to Korkstand
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There are literally thousands of sources a mere google search away, but you strike me as the type that disregards a lot of sources. Let's start by you giving me a very short list of sources you trust and I'll find one for ya.
I'll give you one. East Anglia Institute. The one where emails should that data did not support the warming trend so they just fabricated data that did support warming. My basic principle is if you have to fabricate data to support your theory, your theory is probably wrong.And look up the study of the forest in Russia that was supposed to support global warming. Problem with the study is they only used a sample size of one tree. Let me give you a theory, the whole global warming theory is a fraud. It's just my theory but the evidence is overwhelming.
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