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Posted on 3/18/16 at 12:34 pm to Warfarer
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yes. In this age of social media, the restaurant wouldn't last long but they shouldn't be forced to serve someone they don't want to. Let free market handle it. T
Ok, what about rural areas and that's the only restaurant, food market, or gas station around. Do they just not eat?
Posted on 3/18/16 at 12:34 pm to Warfarer
Because the government doesn't trust that the market will work itself out. They feel that need to influence to work out as much as possible.
Posted on 3/18/16 at 12:35 pm to Warfarer
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Why can't free market handle these things instead of lawsuits? A business should be able to decline business to anyone they choose to. If a cake maker doesn't want to make a cake for a gay wedding then let the free market handle it, people will stop going there. If a private business doesn't want to hire blacks, whites, females because they would be a minority within the company culture and that in itself is a liability these days, why force them to hire them?
It's because self-righteous Christians think they can force morality through legislation.
Posted on 3/18/16 at 12:36 pm to Warfarer
quote:Then, you have two separate issues. The first is being non-ADA compliant. The second is lawyers. Only one you can really do anything about, and it takes care of the latter.
"they" was more the threat of lawsuits. There was a law firm out of Montgomery or Birmingham going around the state threatening to sue anyone not conforming a couple years ago. Basically ambulance chasers that knew that they could get lots of small checks by threat of law suit.
Posted on 3/18/16 at 12:36 pm to LigerFan
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The answer is no, so you wouldn't go there anymore. That's what makes it a free market. If I don't like that establishments policies I can choose not to go there instead of getting the government to force them into abiding by certain policies.
Again, if you are black in a rural area and the whites will keep that restaurant or store in business whether people complain or not. If that's the only store where you live, you should be just SOL?
Posted on 3/18/16 at 12:36 pm to SpeckledTiger
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It's because self-righteous Christians think they can force morality through legislation.
What... the... frick...
Posted on 3/18/16 at 12:37 pm to MightyYat
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a concrete business or outdoors supply store and you couldn't get up the stairs or fit in the bathroom if that came up. I'm sure you'd be all like, "it's cool guys. I understand. It's your personal business. My wife can just sit here in her own piss and shite. We're good."
But that is my point. Would I be happy about it? No. The same as a gas station that doesn't have public restrooms. It sucks but that is their choice to do so. Let the market handle it. If I tried to wheel my mother or child into a store and couldn't get them in, I would get pissed I am sure and probably do a little cussing and yelling but I wouldn't sue them over it. I would tell everyone I know what a shitty bunch that business is but I wouldn't sue them.
Posted on 3/18/16 at 12:38 pm to MightyYat
quote:Right? That dude went hard in the paint.
What... the... frick...
Posted on 3/18/16 at 12:40 pm to Warfarer
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But that is my point. Would I be happy about it? No. The same as a gas station that doesn't have public restrooms. It sucks but that is their choice to do so. Let the market handle it. If I tried to wheel my mother or child into a store and couldn't get them in, I would get pissed I am sure and probably do a little cussing and yelling but I wouldn't sue them over it. I would tell everyone I know what a shitty bunch that business is but I wouldn't sue them.
I think you get why the ADA exists but you're too busy trying to be Capt. America right now.
Posted on 3/18/16 at 12:41 pm to windshieldman
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Ok, what about rural areas and that's the only restaurant, food market, or gas station around. Do they just not eat?
Yes. Say you were allergic to chicken and the only restaurant you came across was a KFC or Popeyes and all they had was chicken. Could you sue them for not accommodating your allergy? My point is that businesses should be able to choose without worry of lawsuits.
Hell, a few years ago I got drug into a lawsuit on a project that I didn't even bid on and never stepped foot on. I had to hire a lawyer to go tell the other lawyer that they had the wrong company and I was out a few grand.
Posted on 3/18/16 at 12:42 pm to Warfarer
We should ban all lawsuits and just have old-fashioned duels like the good old days
Posted on 3/18/16 at 12:42 pm to CorporateTiger
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So what you are actually saying is "a relatively small segment of the population blames OP's demographic for everything that is wrong in the western world."
That is true, but OP's demographic would largely blame those same social activists.
Yes, those small segments are beginning to control the narrative in the media. The wage gap is a complete myth yet it is still being blamed on the white male patriarchy. These movements are gaining momentum at lightning speed and very few are willing stand up to it. BLM activists have forced all politicians to utter the words "black lives matter" or else face the wrath of an onslaught of defamation via the media. You have groups of black activists taking over Bernie Sanders events when the guy has been quite literally on the front lines of the civil rights movement since day one. Yet this guy has to go out and prove that he's worthy of the black vote. It's completely maddening.
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Please the only politician going hard on blaming white men is Hillary. Eve Bernie, who theoretically falls into this group gets most of his support from under 45 white males
What? Bernie said “When you’re white, you don’t know what it’s like to be living in a ghetto,” Sanders said. “You don’t know what it’s like to be poor.”
He's a self-loathing apologist for the white males that made this country the most powerful country in human existence.
Posted on 3/18/16 at 12:42 pm to Warfarer
quote:But, don't be confused. The lawsuits are only there because the lawyers figured out that they can go around checking for non-compliant businesses and sue them.
Yes. Say you were allergic to chicken and the only restaurant you came across was a KFC or Popeyes and all they had was chicken. Could you sue them for not accommodating your allergy? My point is that businesses should be able to choose without worry of lawsuits.
This post was edited on 3/18/16 at 12:43 pm
Posted on 3/18/16 at 12:42 pm to MightyYat
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I think you get why the ADA exists but you're too busy trying to be Capt. America right now.
I understand why it exists but I don't understand why the private sector should be REQUIRED to abide by it. I fully understand public property and governments, just not the private sector.
Posted on 3/18/16 at 12:43 pm to SpeckledTiger
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It's because self-righteous Christians think they can force morality through legislation.
And atheist liberals don't do the same thing, right?
The same folks who want to punish people for saying something that's deemed offensive.
Posted on 3/18/16 at 12:46 pm to Warfarer
You receive benefit of public works through taxes the general public pays and therefore must cater to the regulations imposed by the various governing bodies to serve the public.
Posted on 3/18/16 at 12:47 pm to SpeckledTiger
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It's because self-righteous Christians think they can force morality through legislation.
What a stupid statement. Everything that's happened in the last several years has been the exact opposite of what you said.
We're having IMMORALITY shoved down our throats. They've removed Christianity and replaced it with "tolerance".
Posted on 3/18/16 at 12:48 pm to Sneaky__Sally
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You receive benefit of public works through taxes the general public pays and therefore must cater to the regulations imposed by the various governing bodies to serve the public.
now there is an argument, never thought about that.
and I even upvoted for a good argument.
This post was edited on 3/18/16 at 12:49 pm
Posted on 3/18/16 at 12:48 pm to Warfarer
Don't worry once Trump starts making the best deals we are going to start winning and America will be great again
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