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re: Why are there not more medical schools or higher acceptant rates?
Posted on 3/22/15 at 11:42 pm to LSUtoOmaha
Posted on 3/22/15 at 11:42 pm to LSUtoOmaha
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Plus, if you don't match or scramble, you are waiting an entire year, even after passing the boards, to re-apply. This percentage is only increasing, and these are people that have gone through four years of medical school.
Okay, now this argument is something I might can understand and agree with.
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Posted on 3/22/15 at 11:42 pm to thegeneral3
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How is what they did problematic?
having a ton of people go to school for 4 years to get a specialized degree and not being able to use the degree isnt a problem?
Posted on 3/22/15 at 11:44 pm to Deactived
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having a ton of people go to school for 4 years to get a specialized degree and not being able to use the degree isnt a problem?
If it's specialized then why wouldn't you be able to use the degree?
Posted on 3/22/15 at 11:50 pm to lsunurse
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Most urgent cares are staffed with PA's and NPs though.
I'd say this plus Obamacare. NP's are incredibly valuable these days, especially with the influx of Urgent Cares and Minute Clinics at drug stores. Most people I know in healthcare, from what I've seen, are against Obamacare and getting out. I could be wrong, but most people are seeking different methods of treatment instead of scheduling an appointment with their GP.
Posted on 3/22/15 at 11:53 pm to Scruffy
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Match day was Friday. I got where I wanted.
awww shite scruffy, fun part's over, time to get to work plebe
This post was edited on 3/22/15 at 11:54 pm
Posted on 3/22/15 at 11:54 pm to Scruffy
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The problem is residency numbers. The money for residencies comes from the government, if Scruffy isn't mistaken.
That number has not increased.
Ding ding ding. Medicare pays for most of residency training. Thats the bottleneck, not medical schools.
Posted on 3/22/15 at 11:59 pm to Scruffy
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Match day was Friday. I got where I wanted.
Try not to kill the kids brah
Posted on 3/23/15 at 12:01 am to onmymedicalgrind
Yea, that is goal number 1.
Posted on 3/23/15 at 12:02 am to Scruffy
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You want to fix that?
Increase how much they get paid by Medicare/Medicaid.
You'll get applicants then.
Well Congress may finally do just that. :fingerscrossed:
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Congressional leaders Thursday announced a bipartisan, bicameral deal to permanently repeal Medicare's loathed sustainable growth-rate formula for paying doctors. Bills containing terms of the deal were introduced in both chambers of Congress.
Posted on 3/23/15 at 12:02 am to Scruffy
I got faith in you brosef
Posted on 3/23/15 at 12:05 am to thegeneral3
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If it's specialized then why wouldn't you be able to use the degree?
you can not legally practice medicine in the USA without first completing a residency. So if you can't get a residency you can not use your MD.
Posted on 3/23/15 at 12:18 am to Deactived
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you are still taking in, for a lack of better words, a dumber student
My wife was on the admissions committee of a medical school, there were always many more equally qualified applicants tha there were spots in the class. Most schools could easily increase their admissions, as has been stated several times the problem is lack residencies.
Posted on 3/23/15 at 12:24 am to Winkface
1) The shortage is in primary care in rural areas. Yes there is a shortage in all fields but most of the data is talking about primary care in rural areas. That is why the LSU system has put into place special scholarships for students willing to practice in rural areas for 5 years after they graduate.
2) The problem is it cost the state another hundred thousand to educate a student (at least that is what I was told). The student pays his/her fare share (another few hundred thousand). There just isn't enough money at this time to open more residencies.
3) I know this will sound sexist but it is true. The acceptance rate used to be very low for females into medical school. Now it is near 50/50. The problem is that most females only practice full time for a few years then move to part time because they want a family (nothing wrong with this) but it leads to a shortage. It used to be that every Physician coming out would practice basically until he became senile and because of the above that has changed.
4) The acceptance rate should stay the same. If we lowered the standard them you would have a ton of students flunking out of medical school and costing the state more money. There are plenty of Caribbean students that graduate medical school but can't get into residency because either we don't have enough spots or they couldn't meet the grade. (meaning we already have a system to get more people through medical school).
5) increasing medicare rates will not help anything. What they need to do is pay the Physician for performance. This would increase quality of care and weed out the poor performing Doctors who are just in it for the money. The system we have right now only rewards Doctors for how many patients they see and not how well they treat them. Unfortunately the cost of overhead forces Doctors to see a patient every 8-10 minutes or they wouldn't be making any profit. They need to pay the Doctor more for chronic patients like Diabetes/Hypertension/COPD (in a shared savings model). This would actually improve quality and save money. The good Doctors make more and the Bad Doctors make less.
Sorry went off there but it is crazy how the current health system is being implemented. What a waste of money and resources.
2) The problem is it cost the state another hundred thousand to educate a student (at least that is what I was told). The student pays his/her fare share (another few hundred thousand). There just isn't enough money at this time to open more residencies.
3) I know this will sound sexist but it is true. The acceptance rate used to be very low for females into medical school. Now it is near 50/50. The problem is that most females only practice full time for a few years then move to part time because they want a family (nothing wrong with this) but it leads to a shortage. It used to be that every Physician coming out would practice basically until he became senile and because of the above that has changed.
4) The acceptance rate should stay the same. If we lowered the standard them you would have a ton of students flunking out of medical school and costing the state more money. There are plenty of Caribbean students that graduate medical school but can't get into residency because either we don't have enough spots or they couldn't meet the grade. (meaning we already have a system to get more people through medical school).
5) increasing medicare rates will not help anything. What they need to do is pay the Physician for performance. This would increase quality of care and weed out the poor performing Doctors who are just in it for the money. The system we have right now only rewards Doctors for how many patients they see and not how well they treat them. Unfortunately the cost of overhead forces Doctors to see a patient every 8-10 minutes or they wouldn't be making any profit. They need to pay the Doctor more for chronic patients like Diabetes/Hypertension/COPD (in a shared savings model). This would actually improve quality and save money. The good Doctors make more and the Bad Doctors make less.
Sorry went off there but it is crazy how the current health system is being implemented. What a waste of money and resources.
Posted on 3/23/15 at 1:31 am to thegeneral3
It's probably a funding thing.
Posted on 3/23/15 at 2:14 am to Winkface
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That's my point. Educating law students is nothing like educating med students. Dead bodies aren't free brah.
If there's a shortage of doctors, shouldn't dead bodies be a dime a dozen then?
Posted on 3/23/15 at 4:44 am to thegeneral3
Doctors have a kick arse union, the AMA, keepin' the supply low and the price high
Posted on 3/23/15 at 5:50 am to thegeneral3
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higher acceptant rates
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acceptant
Hopefully because of shite like this
Posted on 3/23/15 at 6:12 am to thegeneral3
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I read an article that law schools are suffering (rightfully so) because many people are choosing no longer to attend. However, why do people bitch about there being a shortage of doctors when the medical school acceptance rate is so low? Dr.'s still have to take their boards so who gives a frick if you accept more?
Posted on 3/23/15 at 6:18 am to thegeneral3
Regardless of requirements and threshold for entrance-
I read an article revealing a poll among physicians- 1/3 said if they had it to do over again they would choose another field DOCS
Another survey said 1/2 are considering leaving
Good bye Doc
That should help your confidence in your doc
I read an article revealing a poll among physicians- 1/3 said if they had it to do over again they would choose another field DOCS
Another survey said 1/2 are considering leaving
Good bye Doc
That should help your confidence in your doc
This post was edited on 3/23/15 at 6:23 am
Posted on 3/23/15 at 6:33 am to Deactived
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kind of meant for an emergency. yea i can see going to a specialist can be awhile before you see them. i tried to get an appt with my urologist and he had a 4 month wait for a regular visit
I can cold call both urology groups in BR this morning and have an appointment with probably 4 or 5 by the end of the week. And if it is YOUR urologist I can guarantee its not 4 months.
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