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Why are some of you biased regarding crime and punishment?
Posted on 3/20/19 at 7:00 pm
Posted on 3/20/19 at 7:00 pm
I've noticed several threads on here about teachers sleeping with underaged students. The general attitude on here is one of indifference. However if it's another victimless crime, such as drug usage, only then is it inappropriate.
I believe that if a law is broken, then there should be justice. Even if it's a victimless crime, you be fair in your judgment. Either you punish all people who commit it equally or not at all.
I realize repeat offenders need tougher punishments. But that doesn't mean that the punishment should be out of bounds or more harsh than the crime itself.
EDIT: I should be specific. Drugs that I am referencing are those proven to have medicinal or recreational with proper sanitation (ie not cut with another substance). Cannibus and its derivatives fall into this category.
Drugs with proven detrimental effects need to be legalized BUT APPROPRIATED BY THE STATE for consumers.
I believe that if a law is broken, then there should be justice. Even if it's a victimless crime, you be fair in your judgment. Either you punish all people who commit it equally or not at all.
I realize repeat offenders need tougher punishments. But that doesn't mean that the punishment should be out of bounds or more harsh than the crime itself.
EDIT: I should be specific. Drugs that I am referencing are those proven to have medicinal or recreational with proper sanitation (ie not cut with another substance). Cannibus and its derivatives fall into this category.
Drugs with proven detrimental effects need to be legalized BUT APPROPRIATED BY THE STATE for consumers.
This post was edited on 3/20/19 at 7:09 pm
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Posted on 3/20/19 at 7:02 pm to volod
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However if it's another victimless crime, such as drug usage, only then is it bad
You don’t read so good den baw
Posted on 3/20/19 at 7:02 pm to volod
I don't consider people *using* drugs like Heroin, Meth, etc. to be a victimless crime so I will always be against them. I don't think you will find many people here against marijuana. Just using the term "drug" is quite stupid. Be specific if you want to get a debate going.
*missed a word
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This post was edited on 3/20/19 at 7:07 pm
Posted on 3/20/19 at 7:02 pm to volod
I believe that all crimes should have a victim and the punishments should be severe. All drugs should be legalized.
Posted on 3/20/19 at 7:02 pm to volod
ok.
Posted on 3/20/19 at 7:03 pm to volod
My favorite are the white collar criminal threads:
"Let's wait for everything to come out"
"I want to hear about his side of the story"
"Let's wait for everything to come out"
"I want to hear about his side of the story"
Posted on 3/20/19 at 7:03 pm to volod
Drug usage is much worse then banging. People on drugs wreck vehicles and kill innocent folks, steal to support the habit...
Posted on 3/20/19 at 7:04 pm to volod
I think you are mistaken....people here are pretty damn harsh on teachers who sleep with their students, etc. Sure, there area slapdicks here that make jokes about it, but the general attitude is pretty damn stout.
Posted on 3/20/19 at 7:04 pm to volod
quote:
I believe lieve that if a law is broken, then there should be justice. Even if it's a victimless crime, you be fair in your judgment. Either you punish all people who commit it equally or not at all.
For your example you compare different crimes. Why would you expect the same punishments? I don't understand your argument.
Posted on 3/20/19 at 7:05 pm to volod
This place isn’t reality for most here. Take it with a grain of salt.
Posted on 3/20/19 at 7:07 pm to volod
Guys like to put themselves into the role. Wishing they had been presented with the situation. Every dude remembers being a teen and fapping.
Nobody wants a male highschool teacher trying to frick them. Most of the time you're hoping they never get any, even from their spouse.
Nobody wants a male highschool teacher trying to frick them. Most of the time you're hoping they never get any, even from their spouse.
Posted on 3/20/19 at 7:07 pm to NIH
quote:
My favorite are the white collar criminal threads: "Let's wait for everything to come out" "I want to hear about his side of the story"
Typically those crimes are more nuanced than some thug popping another thug and it takes a while for all the facts to completely come out.
Posted on 3/20/19 at 7:09 pm to Loungefly85
Typically the the Feds (when not being political) only come after you officially when they have you dead to rights.
Posted on 3/20/19 at 7:10 pm to Spankum
quote:
...people here are pretty damn harsh on teachers who sleep with their students,
I’m not, as long as the student is a boy and 14+ and it was consensual. And don’t give me that legal fiction that a minor can’t consent. Minors drive cars and have jobs.
Posted on 3/20/19 at 7:11 pm to volod
You consistently have the most weird, out of left field threads I have ever seen
Posted on 3/20/19 at 7:11 pm to Geauxtiga
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steal to support the habit...
Only poor people steal to support their habit. Ever hear of a doctor committing a carjacking to support his cocaine habit?
Posted on 3/20/19 at 7:12 pm to NIH
quote:Yea, like the thread about Aunt Becky and the buying college admissions scandal.
My favorite are the white collar criminal threads:
"Let's wait for everything to come out"
"I want to hear about his side of the story"
No one had fun at their expense.
Scruffy is part of the #AuntBrckyisInnocent group.
Posted on 3/20/19 at 7:16 pm to volod
weed and beer is the same, there is no difference except beer is worse, the law was political and has no bearing on the factual evidence of what it does to people
other drugs are addictive and harmful and those should remain illegal
teachers fricking students should not get different punishment solely based on the sex or how good looking the teacher is.
teachers should not be allowed to teach students within 15 years of their own age, its ridiculous and the main cause of teachers fricking students
and my biggest pet peeve is why the hell does murder get you 10 years in jail while attempted murder gets you 20-life when no one died? look it up, it changes in certain areas but the difference is the same, you get twice the jail time if the person doesnt die so the lesson is make damn sure they are dead and you back on the streets in 10 years, sometimes just 7
other drugs are addictive and harmful and those should remain illegal
teachers fricking students should not get different punishment solely based on the sex or how good looking the teacher is.
teachers should not be allowed to teach students within 15 years of their own age, its ridiculous and the main cause of teachers fricking students
and my biggest pet peeve is why the hell does murder get you 10 years in jail while attempted murder gets you 20-life when no one died? look it up, it changes in certain areas but the difference is the same, you get twice the jail time if the person doesnt die so the lesson is make damn sure they are dead and you back on the streets in 10 years, sometimes just 7
This post was edited on 3/20/19 at 7:18 pm
Posted on 3/20/19 at 7:22 pm to volod
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I believe that if a law is broken, then there should be justice
I'm all for the death penalty for violent crimes.
The faster we can get them to electric chair or leathal injection the better.
The death penalty 100% reduces crime, if for no other reason, it becomes 100% impossible for that criminal to commit another crime - because he is dead!
I wish LA had an Express lane for the death penalty.
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