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re: Why are more Cat 4 storms making landfall in the USA?
Posted on 9/28/22 at 8:39 pm to stout
Posted on 9/28/22 at 8:39 pm to stout
There are coastal core samples done along the Gulf coast that show sand deposits from massive numerous storms. They show cycles of numbers and intensity dating back thousands of years.
LSU did much of the research. It's probably all locked away because it doesn't agree with the climate change narrative.
LSU did much of the research. It's probably all locked away because it doesn't agree with the climate change narrative.
Posted on 9/28/22 at 8:41 pm to tigerbutt
How dare you poli-board shite post inside the hallowed halls of the OT Lounge
Posted on 9/28/22 at 8:42 pm to Master Guilbeau
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Lol that’s a bunch a bullshite
How do you know?
It could be true.
You should stay up the next 48 hours straight reading and report back.
Posted on 9/28/22 at 8:43 pm to stout
Obviously it is global warming or climate change.
Send your money to the Democrats
Send your money to the Democrats
Posted on 9/28/22 at 8:48 pm to thejudge
Hard to argue with the data these samples contain. It cycles and I doubt it has anything to do with us.
https://www.thefreelibrary.com/Coastal+lakes+hold+hurricane+history.-a014459015
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Catastrophic hurricanes elude long-term forecasting, in part because their historic documentation dates back only 120 years - a span too short to reveal how often such storms tend to recur. Now. two scientists have found a way to extend that record backthousandsof years. Bytracingthe fingerprints that ancient hurricanes left in lake sediments near the Alabama coast, they have taken the first step toward calculating the risk of a devastating storm in that region.
We have reconstructed hurricane activities in that part of the Gulf [of Mexico] during the last 5,000 years," says geographer Kam-biu Liu of Louisiana State University in Baton Rouge.
Using radiocarbon dating to determine the age of hurricane sand deposits, Liu and graduate student Miriam L. Fearn found that extremely violent hurricanes have raced through the area about every 600 years. Given that the last such storm hit this region 770 years ago, "the Alabama coast is likely to be struck by a major hurricane within the next century," Liu says. He and Fearn describe their study in the September GEOLOGY.
Focusing on coastal Lake Shelby allowed them to date the ancient hurricanes to within 200 years, says Liu. Previously geologists looked at much older, mostly marine sediments that are often too perturbed for exact dating," he explains. Coastal lakes are better preserved and hold organic material that can be accurately dated, he says.
The researchers started out by locating the sand that Hurricage Frederick - a strong storm that struck in 1979 - had hurled away from beaches and into the lake. Guided by the appearance of the sand layer left by Frederick, they scanned lake sediment cores for older hurricane-sand strata. Then they radiocarbon-dated the older hurricanes, measuring the proportion of carbon-14 in the sediment layers around the sand.
These deposits must have stemmed from catastrophic hurricanes, Liu reasoned, because the winds managed to fling them into the middle of the lake-an area so far from the beaches that Frederick's sand deposits hadn't reached it.
Liu is now extending this pilot project to a dozen sites along the Gulf of Mexico, hoping to assemble an overall pattern of prehistoric hurricanes within the next two years.
https://www.thefreelibrary.com/Coastal+lakes+hold+hurricane+history.-a014459015
This post was edited on 9/28/22 at 9:18 pm
Posted on 9/28/22 at 8:52 pm to loogaroo
Because they are sensationalizing them. There were no 150 mph winds on land at ground level.
Highest sustained ground level winds seem to have been 10-20mph below what they peg storms at the last several years
Highest sustained ground level winds seem to have been 10-20mph below what they peg storms at the last several years
Posted on 9/28/22 at 9:01 pm to HeadSlash
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Better equipment/information to categorize the storms.
Agree with this. Better instruments providing better and more data. Hurricane Hunters and NOAA planes are constantly in these hurricanes gathering data.
Posted on 9/28/22 at 9:10 pm to loogaroo
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There are coastal core samples done along the Gulf coast that show sand deposits from massive numerous storms. They show cycles of numbers and intensity dating back thousands of years.
LSU did much of the research. It's probably all locked away because it doesn't agree with the climate change narrative.
I tried to find some data presented in a class once on the subject, but it is nowhere findable. The gulf has “hot” and “cool” cycles, and they had them mapped out (something like 20 “hot” years followed by 20 (or 40?) “cool” or something with a cadence. The numbers are wrong. But the concept of predictable good/bad cycles fit the data they presented well. I was interested at the time and had notes that I took on it. But now I’m old, forgot, and can’t find any sort of publication on gulf current temperatures and storm intensity/frequency.
2010 was a weird time. Climategate happened, the idea of climate change went somewhat dormant for several years. Colbert lambasted climate change when the emails were uncovered just before Letterman retired and he decided to play himself instead of a funny person on tv.
And then there was just sort of a “nah, back to blaming everything on climate change” overnight.
Posted on 9/28/22 at 9:19 pm to stout
between 1931 to 1960 there were 26 major hurricanes (3, 4 & 5) to strike the U S mainland and 60 for all hurricanes to strike the U S mainland during those 3 decades
since 1961 the average amount of hurricanes striking the mainland has actually decreased on average significantly per decade
per the NOAA, which has different numbers than Wiki
since 1961 the average amount of hurricanes striking the mainland has actually decreased on average significantly per decade
per the NOAA, which has different numbers than Wiki
This post was edited on 9/29/22 at 10:04 am
Posted on 9/28/22 at 9:24 pm to Hopeful Doc
I wish I could find the information what you are talking about as well. It was extremely interesting. I remember they found that hurricanes have been relatively mild compared to just a couple thousand years ago.
He is a little more...
https://www.cambridge.org/core/journals/quaternary-research/article/abs/lake-sediment-evidence-of-coastal-geologic-evolution-and-hurricane-history-from-western-lake-florida-reply-to-otvos/30B093BDB981B987E242AA7B6E2D6B4E
He is a little more...
https://www.cambridge.org/core/journals/quaternary-research/article/abs/lake-sediment-evidence-of-coastal-geologic-evolution-and-hurricane-history-from-western-lake-florida-reply-to-otvos/30B093BDB981B987E242AA7B6E2D6B4E
Posted on 9/28/22 at 9:26 pm to TigerGirl80
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Posted on 9/28/22 at 9:30 pm to stout
That many posts, maybe take a break from posting.
Posted on 9/28/22 at 9:33 pm to stout
Your analysis of 25 of 4.5 billion years is captivating! Whhhyyyyyyy?!
Posted on 9/28/22 at 9:37 pm to loogaroo
quote:ITT I learned that scientists are not able to accurately categorize storms as they occur but that they are able to accurately categorize storms from thousands of years ago by examining sand.
they found that hurricanes have been relatively mild compared to just a couple thousand years ago.
Posted on 9/28/22 at 9:38 pm to stout
Why were there so few storms this year with all the climate hysterics?
Bc none of these frickers knows anything special that’s why and the earth has been around for millions and millions of years so the last 100 aren’t very relevant
Bc none of these frickers knows anything special that’s why and the earth has been around for millions and millions of years so the last 100 aren’t very relevant
Posted on 9/28/22 at 9:44 pm to stout
I don’t believe this one was a Cat 4. If it was, reporters would not have been in the streets.
Changing the way they categorize it for media sensationalism and muh climate change.
Changing the way they categorize it for media sensationalism and muh climate change.
Posted on 9/28/22 at 9:44 pm to Emteein
Last week all the weather news was about the lack of storms this year
Posted on 9/28/22 at 9:51 pm to Bob Sacamano
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Changing the way they categorize it for media sensationalism and muh climate change.
Kill me. Slowly.
Posted on 9/28/22 at 9:52 pm to Purple Spoon
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I personally think that improvements in instrumentation enable us to measure wind speeds in areas of the storms we couldn’t before. A 3 40 years ago may have been a 4 and a 4 actually a 5
I agree with this. Also show me where someone on the ground actually recorded anything close to 150 mph winds or 130 for that matter. Or more than 12 foot storm surge? And 940 mb could also be in CAT3 range.
Posted on 9/28/22 at 9:53 pm to stout
It didn't happen in 1822, won't happen in 2222. Sample size determines everything in science.
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