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re: Who is the most important figure in history (who is not a central figure of a religion)?

Posted on 12/28/19 at 8:15 am to
Posted by SpqrTiger
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Posted on 12/28/19 at 8:15 am to
I think there’s really only one answer to this question, and sadly, it’s Hitler.

I would love for it to be anyone else. Anyone. The man was pure evil. But the bottom line is that he was the central figure of the central event in world history, a war that killed 80 million people, or 3% of all people in the world.

He was the catalyst of the war that gave us the Holocaust, the atomic bomb, the Cold War, and the science that put humans on the moon.

There are many others in this argument that benefit from long chains of continuity, but Hitler had powerful short term effects on history and will continue to have immense importance in the long term.

Like I said before, I hate that it’s him. But it’s him.
Posted by Tigeralum2008
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Member since Apr 2012
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Posted on 12/28/19 at 8:22 am to
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You really think the United States military in 1945 could have invaded the entire Soviet Union, completely defeated the Red Army, taken over the Kremlin, ousted Stalin, forced a democratic government, all the while occupying them whilst all this happened?


No. But we could have beaten their red asses back to the pre-WWII border and maintained a “status-quo” arrangement similar to the SK-NK BORDER
Posted by Antonio Moss
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2006
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Posted on 12/28/19 at 8:28 am to
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As an American, George Washington


Washington was not as instrumental to America’s founding as Thomas Jefferson. In all honesty, he’s probably fourth or fifth behind:

Jefferson
John Adams
James Madison

Ben Franklin will be in that mix as well.
Posted by Crimson1st
Birmingham, AL
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 12/28/19 at 8:34 am to
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Who is the most important figure in history (who is not a central figure of a religion)?


I think you might have to divide this up, even if by century. Monumental things happened by key figures based on different criteria. Someone who was huge in impact such as George Washington impacted in his own way monumentally vs say what Einstein did, or the Wright Brothers.

No real way to quantify the question as it is
Posted by Placebeaux
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Posted on 12/28/19 at 9:38 am to
Constantine
Posted by bulldog95
North Louisiana
Member since Jan 2011
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Posted on 12/28/19 at 9:48 am to
Yes. We would have had them between the army (Europe) and marines (pacific). Hitler was less than 20 miles from Moscow and would have defeated Russia but he stalled his troops so he could conquer Stalingrad. Then the Russian winter hit.

The US also already had the atomic bomb and a far superior Air Force. Russia had us in tanks and infantry but I’m sure France and England would have assisted
Posted by eddieray
Lafayette
Member since Mar 2006
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Posted on 12/28/19 at 10:59 am to
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Probably Ghenghis Kahn. Or maybe whoever the guy was that first united China.


I’m pretty sure that was Kublai Khan that united China. He might not belong on this list but he did do a lot of progressive stuff for that time in history.

He was a grandson (who wasn’t) of Genghis. That family had a pretty nice run.
This post was edited on 12/28/19 at 11:04 am
Posted by SWCBonfire
South Texas
Member since Aug 2011
1274 posts
Posted on 12/28/19 at 12:08 pm to
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Pick an English King. That dynasty altered human history



I see you and counter with Rollo.

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