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re: Who here is in a union? Do you feel it helps or hurts?

Posted on 1/9/20 at 8:08 pm to
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
89618 posts
Posted on 1/9/20 at 8:08 pm to
My situation is relatively unique. We have a union. The union is relatively ineffective.

Posted by Bluegrass_Cat
GVL, SC
Member since Aug 2012
1634 posts
Posted on 1/9/20 at 8:18 pm to
I’m not, however my work group is actively trying to organize (well some of them). I hope we do not vote them in.
Posted by BeepNode
Lafayette
Member since Feb 2014
10005 posts
Posted on 1/9/20 at 9:07 pm to
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being forced by employers


Oh my. I wonder what other things you think employers shouldn't be allowed to "force" you to do?

The QOL for blue collar workers is better up north than down here, imo.
Posted by Thib-a-doe Tiger
Member since Nov 2012
35459 posts
Posted on 1/9/20 at 9:08 pm to
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being forced by employers to pay union dues



You are out of your fricking mind if you think any employer wants you to be a part of a union
Posted by EA6B
TX
Member since Dec 2012
14754 posts
Posted on 1/9/20 at 9:21 pm to
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Maybe. Other than maybe a tiny bit of seniority protection


Awarding anything based on seniority is a concept that should have long been banished from the workplace. Positions should be awarded based on merit, not the fact you managed to show up, and do the minimum required for the most amount of years.
Posted by sincerecontact
Member since Mar 2014
114 posts
Posted on 1/9/20 at 9:23 pm to
I work at a university where we have union and non-union staff. It creates a major divide and is a management nightmare. It's definitely tilted me toward the anti-union side of the ledger.

When my union staff member left, to get another union person to pick up a little slack (process expenses on about 10 transactions a month) took endless emails and several months of discussion, so we gave up on that and someone else volunteered to do it. All that for about one hour of work per month.

To top it off, the fringe costs to our employer are 30% on top of non-union salaries and 60% on top of union salaries.
Posted by FCP
Delta State Univ. - Fightin' Okra
Member since Sep 2010
4800 posts
Posted on 1/9/20 at 9:28 pm to
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which local IBEW Baw?
I wish.

CWA member.
Posted by CheEngineer
Louisiana
Member since Aug 2019
4234 posts
Posted on 1/11/20 at 6:29 pm to
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I pay 5% of my check and 43 a month.


Did I read that right you pay the union 5% of you paycheck

Posted by bayoumuscle21
St. George
Member since Jan 2012
4642 posts
Posted on 1/11/20 at 7:53 pm to
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Perfect example, i have an uncle who is a big MAGA guy, works at a plant and got fired


Trump isn't against unions. He is against mandatory unions, which are very different things.
Posted by bgtiger
Prairieville
Member since Dec 2004
11434 posts
Posted on 1/11/20 at 8:11 pm to
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This country was built on unions


While somewhat true, pressuring politicians to create favorable workplace laws is what happened. The laws are there now, the regulations are deep, and we don’t need unions for that anymore. In my case of being a union worker for over a decade, it seemed toothless and counter productive 90% of the time, and union leadership did very little in reality while being more concerned with merging with other unions and holding places of bullshite power. A lot like politicians.
Posted by EmperorGout
I hate all of you.
Member since Feb 2008
11275 posts
Posted on 1/11/20 at 8:20 pm to
Union member for over 15 years now. Fully vested pension, PPO family insurance I've literally never had a paycheck deduction for, $500 deductible. Negotiated salary increases (on top of COLA) I wanna say have been 12% in the past six years. Not bad.

Never had to use their legal representation because I'm not an idiot

On the whole, it's been a pretty positive experience I'd say. I've never seen the union wage war for shite employees (contrary to popular opinion); the only time they really went to the mat involved obvious nepotism.
Posted by Ignatius Reilly
NOLA
Member since Nov 2015
148 posts
Posted on 1/11/20 at 8:22 pm to
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Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
39667 posts
Posted on 1/11/20 at 8:57 pm to
Unions are like any other formal institution. Formed for a good and necessary cause, they will eventually be taken over by the corrupt. Why? Because greed is a more powerful incentive than philanthropy.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
261654 posts
Posted on 1/11/20 at 9:00 pm to
Was for a while. Public employee.

I fkin hate it. You're strapped to the lowest producer, no real shot at raises without the damn union scale and merit gets you nowhere.

If you're ambitious, productive, a go getter, it's hell. You'll spend your time picking up everyone else's slack.
Posted by Popths
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2016
3972 posts
Posted on 1/11/20 at 9:23 pm to
Not all Unions are the same. The strength of a Union is it’s membership. I was in one for 40 years. Our Union did not offer a retirement like some. You learn from living. I knew nothing aboutUnions until I worked in one.
Posted by bhtigerfan
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2008
29678 posts
Posted on 1/11/20 at 9:33 pm to
Yes, but it’s ALPA (Air Line Pilots Association), so it’s not like the trade unions. They mostly promote safety related issues although they do negotiate contracts.

And most importantly, they don’t give 100% of their political contributions to the fricking Democrats.
Posted by ZydecoTigah
walker LA
Member since Sep 2010
447 posts
Posted on 1/11/20 at 10:22 pm to
Worked both sides of the fence, union was way better in treating employees. If I had stayed with the 401k on the non union side I would be getting 1K less than my current union pension, plus 50% of would have come out of my wages. Union offers free school, guaranteed raises, paid ins., pension, all paid for by the employer.
Happy and retired!
Local 198 BR
Posted by BeepNode
Lafayette
Member since Feb 2014
10005 posts
Posted on 1/11/20 at 11:07 pm to
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mandatory unions


Does not exist, unless you are against a lot of things that employers require people to do in order to get paid. Employers are not required to be 100% union and employees are not required to take a union job.
Posted by Gator5220
Member since Aug 2010
3132 posts
Posted on 1/12/20 at 12:06 am to
Unions are a for-profit organization, if that tells you anything.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
261654 posts
Posted on 1/12/20 at 12:21 am to
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This country was built on unions


Nope.

Hell Ford didn't unionize until the 40s.
This post was edited on 1/12/20 at 12:27 am
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