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re: Who here doesn’t believe in vaccinating your children?

Posted on 11/29/18 at 4:39 pm to
Posted by ZappBrannigan
Member since Jun 2015
7692 posts
Posted on 11/29/18 at 4:39 pm to
It's easier to control for legal travel and immigration. We also know shite travels back and forth and can look things up if necessary. We can't do the same with illegals, they also congregate in areas that are going to get be hit the worst because of safe havens or family in poor areas.
Posted by Hopeful Doc
Member since Sep 2010
15035 posts
Posted on 11/29/18 at 9:17 pm to
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they already tell you what you can and can’t put in your bodies (i.e. drugs) why not enforce something that ensures a healthy population?



I'd argue they aren't capable of making that distinction, and the logic doesn't seem flawed the way you put it here, but they also tell you that you can't use your finger to pull a trigger aimed at someone, so why shouldn't they be able to tell you that you can't use your tongue to hurt feelings?


The government being capable of improving public health does not mean that they are the only way to make such improvements. I'm of the thought that change in law should be the last resort essentially always. Vaccination rates still remain pretty high. Education of the patient by the provider works very well.

Change in law also can have unintended consequences. Example: sister has serious allergic reaction to a particular vaccine. Younger sibling is due for it 2 years later. Does the sibling get the vaccine? Should it be informed decision shared between the parent and the physician (my vote)? Should the government dictate whether that child is vaccinated or not?
Posted by HoustonChick86
Catalina Wine Mixer
Member since Dec 2009
57475 posts
Posted on 11/29/18 at 9:22 pm to
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It needs to be mandatory

My son's pediatrician would not accept him as a new patient if we weren't going to vaccinate.
Posted by Kige Ramsey
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Member since Jul 2007
44412 posts
Posted on 11/29/18 at 9:35 pm to
If I had kids and the vaccine would help them they would get it however it was ineffective and useless as the flu shot is no they wouldn't get it
Posted by Bamajedi
Member since Sep 2017
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Posted on 11/29/18 at 9:41 pm to
Posted by novabill
Crossville, TN
Member since Sep 2005
10471 posts
Posted on 11/29/18 at 10:26 pm to
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It needs to be mandatory



Yay Freedom
Posted by Evolved Simian
Bushwood Country Club
Member since Sep 2010
20649 posts
Posted on 11/29/18 at 10:35 pm to
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Why are you so focused on "illegals infiltrating our country?"


Because the vaccination rate among illegals entering the country is 0%.

Posted by dawgsjlw
shite hole with your momma
Member since Sep 2014
826 posts
Posted on 11/29/18 at 11:43 pm to
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Which brings up another point, would you rather your child **MAYBE** be autistic, or die from a disease that we eradicated decades ago?
Let me guess you are christian b/c you rather play it safe, just in case hell is reel.
Posted by TOSOV
Member since Jan 2016
8922 posts
Posted on 11/30/18 at 12:37 am to
Did something change in the vax that causes autism the last decade or so??

Or are there a bunch of non-diagnosed autism adults from the pre-90/80s version of the vaccine.

This is what baffles me about the argument.
Posted by TOSOV
Member since Jan 2016
8922 posts
Posted on 11/30/18 at 12:42 am to
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Tens of thousands of Americans travel internationally every day. Tens of thousands of non-Americans travel here, legally, every day. The exposure to disease strains from outside of the U.S. herd happens all day, every day.

Why are you so focused on "illegals infiltrating our country?" That's just stupid.


Amigo...the people traveling here on planes arent the ones carrying this kind of crap. The ilegals in the caravans are the dirt poor, and not US dirt poor, but less than that. They havent had access to anything medically safe their whole lives.

Get your head out of the ground. Yall really have to stop being so naive.
Posted by TOSOV
Member since Jan 2016
8922 posts
Posted on 11/30/18 at 12:57 am to
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I believe in explaining the risks of vaccines to your kids and letting them decide. Obviously you have to wait until they're a couple of years old, but why not let them decide what to do with their own bodies?

This year our 4 year old opted in and our 6 year old declined. We respect their autonomy


Such a cuck move. Grow up, and be a real man and lead your family. I guess you'll let your kids decide if they go to school, eat veggies or junk food, etc. Heck next time you get a job offer or promotion you should ask them to vote on it too.

Better ask them to let you hump their mommy again, cause you dont want to accidently have another baby w/o their approval. Especially from the 4 y/o cause being a middle child may ruin his life.

What a a joke
This post was edited on 11/30/18 at 12:59 am
Posted by VenezuelanTigerFan
Baltimore
Member since Oct 2018
17 posts
Posted on 11/30/18 at 1:33 am to
If this were true, there would recorded outbreaks of these diseases (diphtheria, pertussis, measles... etc) in areas where there would be a high migrant population. To my knowledge, there have no such reported outbreaks. So that claims isn't true. Now if we're talking simply vaccination, everyone's child should be vaccinated
Posted by VenezuelanTigerFan
Baltimore
Member since Oct 2018
17 posts
Posted on 11/30/18 at 1:41 am to
It's honestly because people don't care about statistics and science. Anyone can get into the studies showing drastic decreases is previously deadly diseases and see that vaccines are ultimately safe and essential. For example, smallpox has been eradicated since the 80s, how? Vaccines. Anti-vax movement is a near delusion and when you confront people on their delusions it tends to strengthen them.
Posted by Sahara1
Raleigh
Member since Oct 2018
31 posts
Posted on 11/30/18 at 3:53 am to
If you're really on the fence on vaccinations just space them out. You don't have to do 2-3 per Dr visit. Put a month in between.


And calm down.

When it comes to the flu shot, never had one, never had the flu
Knock on wood


Maybe this deserves another thread but what in the heck is causing the all of the new allergies anyway(nuts, gluten, etc)? When I was a kid I never knew even one person who couldnt eat a damn peanut butter sandwich?
This post was edited on 11/30/18 at 4:00 am
Posted by lsunurse
Member since Dec 2005
129047 posts
Posted on 11/30/18 at 6:16 am to
I’ll say it again in this thread....I’ve said it in many other vaccine threads....



What pisses me off is the dumb frickers that don’t believe in vaccines were likely vaccinated as children. So they are protected but their poor children are not. Their kids will die and suffer from their decision if the family comes in contact with these deadly diseases....but the whack job parents will survive.

That pisses me off.
Posted by LSUfan20005
Member since Sep 2012
8823 posts
Posted on 11/30/18 at 6:23 am to
But we haven't been nearly as successful with the flu vaccine, it's a Hail Mary compared to measles vaccine.
Posted by castorinho
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Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 11/30/18 at 6:26 am to
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3/10 troll attempt
based on the replies, it was a solid 9/10.
Posted by lsunurse
Member since Dec 2005
129047 posts
Posted on 11/30/18 at 6:30 am to
Some protection from the flu shot is still better than no protection.


Parents in third world countries in Africa that can barely read and write have more common sense that anti vax idiots that have college degrees. Reason why? The parents in Africa will sometimes walk all day with their children to places where their kids can get life saving vaccines.
Posted by Tigerbait357
Member since Jun 2011
67971 posts
Posted on 11/30/18 at 6:50 am to
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My son's pediatrician would not accept him as a new patient if we weren't going to vaccinate.


Sounds like a good pediatrician
Posted by el Gaucho
He/They
Member since Dec 2010
53193 posts
Posted on 11/30/18 at 6:54 am to
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Some of the people that will be shitting on antivaxers are the same geniuses that don't take the flu shot because "they never get sick"

Because we don’t get flu shots
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