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re: Who can tell me about that one night in LA the drinking age was 18

Posted on 12/7/18 at 8:10 am to
Posted by Lsupimp
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Posted on 12/7/18 at 8:10 am to
Cuban liquor on Siegen/ Airline would sell me beer at 15. Hell, Pizza Hut would pour us pitchers of beer at 13. It was a different world just a generation ago.
Posted by CHEDBALLZ
South Central LA
Member since Dec 2009
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Posted on 12/7/18 at 8:11 am to
The age changed from 18 to 21 on Aug 16 1995. I had just graduated HS and turned 18 on Aug 6..... in had 10 days to drink legally
Posted by colorchangintiger
Dan Carlin
Member since Nov 2005
30979 posts
Posted on 12/7/18 at 8:11 am to
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Now that I’m older than 21 I think that 21 is a good legal drinking age but it should probably be 25


Hell, I'm 35 and still do major things I regret when I get carried away drinking.
Posted by Sao
East Texas Piney Woods
Member since Jun 2009
65588 posts
Posted on 12/7/18 at 8:12 am to

Correct. We used to run to Shreveport from Longview to hit Vertigo from 87-89. Greatest years ever.
Posted by fallguy_1978
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Posted on 12/7/18 at 8:15 am to
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Correct. We used to run to Shreveport from Longview to hit Vertigo from 87-89. Greatest years ever.

Even when the law changed it didn't really matter in South Louisiana.

Everyone knew stores where you could buy it or bars that would let you drink. You could still get in to most bars at 18.

The little convenience store by my dad's house would sell it to me at like 15 if I said it was for my dad
This post was edited on 12/7/18 at 8:18 am
Posted by The Torch
DFW The Dub
Member since Aug 2014
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Posted on 12/7/18 at 8:17 am to
When we were 16 we had a charge account at the liquor store in Grambling

Posted by wickowick
Head of Island
Member since Dec 2006
45792 posts
Posted on 12/7/18 at 8:21 am to
The loophole made it legal for the stores and business to sell to those between 18 and 21; but illegal for 18-21-year-olds to buy it.
Posted by go ta hell ole miss
Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 12/7/18 at 8:22 am to
It was not actually changed to 21 until 1996. Your suggestion it was recently changed in 1993 or 1994 is wrong. It was changed to 21 in 1987, but easily skirted by sales laws and nobody ever got busted.

There is now a push in the legislature to allow 19-20 year olds to drink, with parental permission.

It was lowered to 18 again in 1996, but only for a few months before losing the challenge on that issue.
This post was edited on 12/7/18 at 8:24 am
Posted by gumbo2176
Member since May 2018
15003 posts
Posted on 12/7/18 at 8:23 am to
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It was always 18 when I was 18, then they changed it to 21 right after I turned 21. But I've been drinking since I was 16, so it didn't really matter. Eta: And buying beer and cigarettes for my old man as early as 13,14yrs old.


Same for me. Born in 52, so by 93/94, I was already in my 40's so a slight reprieve in drinking age limits really didn't effect me.

As for buying cigarettes, my dad would send me to the neighborhood "Mom & Pop" corner store right down the block to buy either cigarettes, or if money was tight, Bugle loose tobacco with the papers to roll his own. Cigarettes were $.35 a pack and Bugle was $.15 a pack at the time. He died when I was 8, and by then I'd been doing that for him for a few years. Can't imagine the looks you'd get if you sent a 6 yr. old to get cigarettes in today's society.
Posted by BitBuster
Lafayette
Member since Dec 2017
1439 posts
Posted on 12/7/18 at 8:26 am to
I came up around that time. Basically all the high-schoolers switched from drinking beer to smoking weed. It was easier to hide, easier to get, and less likely to get caught than drinking.

Back when the age was 18, I seem to remember I-10 and I-20 near the Texas border being littered with dead kids coming to Louisiana to hit the bars in Lake Charles and Shreveport and driving home.
Posted by wildtigercat93
Member since Jul 2011
112198 posts
Posted on 12/7/18 at 8:31 am to
As a child I vividly remember the grocery stores with signs that said something to the effect of

“MUST BE 18 TO PURCHASE ALCOHOL. MUST BE 21 TO CONSUME ALCOHOL”

And it through my little brain for a loop
Posted by Motorboat
At the camp
Member since Oct 2007
22664 posts
Posted on 12/7/18 at 8:39 am to
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The age changed from 18 to 21 on Aug 16 1995. I had just graduated HS and turned 18 on Aug 6..... in had 10 days to drink legally


I turned 18 on August 10. Drank legally for a week and then it was gone. It was such bullshite at the time.
Posted by go_tigres
Member since Sep 2013
5150 posts
Posted on 12/7/18 at 8:44 am to
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And buying beer and cigarettes for my old man as early as 13,14yrs old.


Shite, when I was a kid, maybe 6 or so, my mom would make me go get her cigarettes. She smoked Benson and Hedges Menthol 100's, which was hard for a kid to get right, so she'd right it down and I'd give it to the store clerk.

Posted by HeadyMurphey
Los Santos
Member since Jan 2008
17181 posts
Posted on 12/7/18 at 8:45 am to
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August 15th, 1995


Yes, 3 days after my 18th birthday. Mike's bar and grill was a fun time back then
Posted by redstick13
Lower Saxony
Member since Feb 2007
38449 posts
Posted on 12/7/18 at 8:54 am to
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Back when the age was 18, I seem to remember I-10 and I-20 near the Texas border being littered with dead kids coming to Louisiana to hit the bars in Lake Charles and Shreveport and driving home.


I don't remember a lot of accidents but the cops patrolled the area between Orange and Vinton pretty heavy for many years.
Posted by tgrbaitn08
Member since Dec 2007
146214 posts
Posted on 12/7/18 at 8:58 am to
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The law changed from 18 to 21 around October 1986.

I was legal for 3 months, then waited until summer 1989 to be legal again.



No no. No

The law changed in the 90’s.

I was drinking and going into bars at 18 then when I was 20 the law changed. So for 2 years I was able buy alcohol, getting into bars then I had to put all that on hold for a year until I turned 21. Thank god for fake ID’s.
Posted by Monkeyboy
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2007
763 posts
Posted on 12/7/18 at 8:58 am to
I remember that when the state initially changed the drinking age to 21 that a loop hole was found where members of a private club could legally drink at that club if you were 18 or older, so when you went to a bar all you had to do was sign up to be a member of their private club, they gave you a business card saying you were officially a member, and then you could drink there. They got rid of that loop hole a couple of months later. I just remember I was 20 years old at the time and had been going to bars since I was 18, and all of a sudden I couldn't to a bar for like 6 months when I turned 21.
This post was edited on 12/7/18 at 9:01 am
Posted by Jimbeaux
Member since Sep 2003
20105 posts
Posted on 12/7/18 at 9:03 am to
The original change in the law in 1988 pushed the age to 21 for stores or bars to sell to anyone under 21, but there were effectively two loopholes.

1) There was no penalty to purchase alcohol over 18 but younger than 21. The only penalty was to the store and bars who sold it.

2) The law allowed 18 year olds to drink in private homes, private clubs, or with their parents or legal guardian’s permission.

So this is what happened initially, at least in the Baton Rouge and New Orleans college bar scene. Bars started calling themselves private clubs and you had to pay a membership fee, usually something small like $1 or $5, to join. Then, with your membership, you got a complimentary drink for free.

Also, at tailgates, 18 year olds were drinking and anyone over the age of 21 could claim to be their legal guardian.

These “work arounds” didn’t last too long. The laws were modified, but I don’t remember when or how. I turned 21 in January of 1989 so I didn’t have to worry about it any more.

There were definitely changes made to the laws between 1988 and 1996, but I don’t remember the details.
Posted by stapuffmarshy
lower 9
Member since Apr 2010
17507 posts
Posted on 12/7/18 at 9:15 am to
I don't remember this.


But I do remember that one night when we were allowed to murder people. The stories we still share at reunions are hilarious.
Posted by Dorothy
Munchkinland
Member since Oct 2008
18153 posts
Posted on 12/7/18 at 9:48 am to
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The loophole made it legal for the stores and business to sell to those between 18 and 21; but illegal for 18-21-year-olds to buy it.


It was this. I turned 18 in 1988. I could legally get into bars and they could legally sell it to me, but it was illegal for ME to purchase alcohol.

Here's an old article about it and how the loophole was changed: NY Times article from 1996

quote:

For years, she and other advocates worked to sew shut the loophole in a Louisiana law that protected bar owners from prosecution for selling alcohol to those between 18 and 20, even as it barred those teen-agers from buying alcohol. They won last year, or at least they thought so, when the Legislature banned the sale of alcohol to those under 21.

But then last week, the Louisiana Supreme Court ruled that the state's drinking age of 21 is a form of age discrimination, and tossed out the 1995 law as well as the 1986 law that barred those under 21 from buying alcohol. Louisiana has become the only state in the nation with a drinking age of 18.


Also, from Wikipedia:

quote:

In Louisiana, the 1987 law raising the age from 18 to 21 was deliberately written solely to comply with the National Minimum Drinking Age Act of 1984 to avoid losing highway funding, while still allowing 18- to 20-year-olds to drink as before. Not only did it still allow 18- to 20-year-olds to consume in private, it contained a major loophole allowing bars and stores to sell alcohol to 18- to 20-year-olds without penalty (despite purchase being technically illegal) which meant that the de facto age was still 18.[38] In other words, the drinking age was 21 only on paper.

This loophole was closed in 1995, but in 1996 the Louisiana Supreme Court declared a drinking age of 21 unconstitutional.[38] That briefly lowered the de jure purchase age to 18, causing an uproar which prompted the Louisiana Supreme Court to reverse its decision, raising the age to 21 three months later.[39] Other exceptions still remain to this day, including drinking in a private residence,[40] and Louisiana still has some of the most liberal general alcohol laws of any state.
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