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re: Which is the most important branch of the military?
Posted on 5/30/15 at 7:50 am to SoFla Tideroller
Posted on 5/30/15 at 7:50 am to SoFla Tideroller
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You really think the Air Force supports itself. You way overestimate the airlift capacity of the Air Force. They couldn't transport enough JP to keep one fighter squadron in the air. Much less the food, supplies and other necessities for the people to keep the jets in the air.
Sure is news to me
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The Air Force is very limited in what they do - although what they do they do very well.
Please I would like to know more.
B/c the AF is the logistical backbone of the military, esp during the last two conflicts.
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Posted on 5/30/15 at 7:50 am to LucasP
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Navy is full of gays. Air Force is full of frightened pussies. You have to have a learning disability to get in the Army. And I'm pretty sure they teach you how to beat your wife in the Marine's basic training.
But to answer the question, it's the Navy.
This is the most accurate assessment of the US military I've ever seen
Posted on 5/30/15 at 7:51 am to GeauxxxTigers23
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This is the most accurate assessment of the US military I've ever seen
Thats why joint environments are so much fun.
Posted on 5/30/15 at 7:53 am to geauxtigers6492
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No Marines?
I already see Navy on the list
Posted on 5/30/15 at 7:59 am to Mr.Perfect
The Marines are the least important. The Army could do everything the Marine Corps does but America wants a Marine Corps because we just do it so much better than everyone else.
Posted on 5/30/15 at 8:02 am to GeauxxxTigers23
You guys do more with less, while the Army's budget is just stupid.
When I worked with Army guys I would get so mad how they could just get what they wanted with ease to get the job done. While the AF pinches fricking pennies.
shite when you go to the range on an AF base they inventory every round shot.
When I worked with Army guys I would get so mad how they could just get what they wanted with ease to get the job done. While the AF pinches fricking pennies.
shite when you go to the range on an AF base they inventory every round shot.
Posted on 5/30/15 at 8:04 am to RATeamWannabe
Semper Fi?
More like Semper Pie, piggie
More like Semper Pie, piggie
Posted on 5/30/15 at 8:05 am to hikingfan
DEA. They fight the war on drugs.
Posted on 5/30/15 at 8:11 am to hikingfan
They're all important. The Navy gets heavy equipment there in bulk and does mass destruction from off shore. The Army and Marines are the boots on the ground that do the dirty work and the Air Force is FedEx of the sky for supplies and blowing big stuff up the Navy can't get to.
Posted on 5/30/15 at 8:12 am to choupic
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Here's a scenario. Let's send all army and marine ground forces to china without air support. Good bye!!!!
Here's a Scenario. Let's use just air strikes and no ground forces to defeat ISIS.
Oh Yeah. let me know how that's working out.
Posted on 5/30/15 at 8:15 am to BENGAL44
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Here's a Scenario. Let's use just air strikes and no ground forces to defeat ISIS.
Oh Yeah. let me know how that's working out.
If the AF was able to take the gloves off on ISIS it would be over before we know it.
Posted on 5/30/15 at 8:21 am to LucasP
quote:Why does the Navy require its own army? Because it can't function without land bases, and the Navy needs an army to secure those land bases.
But to answer the question, it's the Navy.
The function of the Navy is to provide mobility and secure lines of communication to our land and air forces while denying mobility and secure lines of communication to the enemy. Those are vital functions given the surface of planet Earth, and the U.S. Navy is the best at performing those functions, but wars aren't won until the enemy's army gives up the fight.
Every conflict the U.S. has been involved in since the end of WWII has been fought with total U.S. naval supremacy. What did the Navy do to bring about victory in Korea, Vietnam, Grenada, Panama, Kuwait, the Balkans, Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya and now against ISIS? The Navy has not been decisive in any of those military conflicts. If the Navy is the most important branch of the military why hasn't it won any wars for the U.S.?
Posted on 5/30/15 at 8:43 am to hikingfan
Navy but the Marines are the most bad arse no question.
Posted on 5/30/15 at 8:52 am to GeauxxxTigers23
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We've won ground wars before without air support and we could do it again.
You have a very limited and sophomoric view. Under no circumstance would any commander of any branch launch a ground war with no air support. It will never happen. Ever.
The Air Force, Navy, and sometimes Marines are there weeks/months before the Army. Thousands of sorties with tons of ordinance dropped before the first conventional troop's boot hits the ground. The door-kickers are needed to take and hold that ground. You'd suffer 50x the losses if you launched a ground invasion before it's been prepped via air power.
There is a reason why we have each branch. Mission sets rarely overlap. We need them all.
Posted on 5/30/15 at 8:57 am to SoFla Tideroller
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You really think the Air Force supports itself. You way overestimate the airlift capacity of the Air Force. They couldn't transport enough JP to keep one fighter squadron in the air. Much less the food, supplies and other necessities for the people to keep the jets in the air.
The Air Force is very limited in what they do - although what they do they do very well.
On the flip side, I know a guy that delivered hundreds of thousands of pounds of beans, bullets, and blood to grunts on the ground with no Amazon Prime access. No real roads to speak of. The guys on the ground depended on that C-130 for the water they drank and to haul their injured to the hospital. Their very existence was dependent on air power.
Posted on 5/30/15 at 9:00 am to slacker130
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You have a very limited and sophomoric view. Under no circumstance would any commander of any branch launch a ground war with no air support. It will never happen. Ever.
The Air Force, Navy, and sometimes Marines are there weeks/months before the Army. Thousands of sorties with tons of ordinance dropped before the first conventional troop's boot hits the ground. The door-kickers are needed to take and hold that ground. You'd suffer 50x the losses if you launched a ground invasion before it's been prepped via air power.
No shite we would lose a lot more men. But it could be done. In order of importance it's
Navy (Marines included)
Army
Air Force
Posted on 5/30/15 at 9:02 am to Sentrius
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The Navy and that's indisputable
Historically, Navies have been the most significant service branch for any country. Navies guarantee supply lines. Without supplies, you can't win wars.
The US Navy is the only one in the world that can project force. I consider the USMC to be a part of the Navy.
Posted on 5/30/15 at 9:02 am to Negative Nomad
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Air Force. Whenever a war kicks off, they're the one knocking out com sites, missile batteries and other strategic locations. They make it easy for everyone else. Navy is a close second only because of their ability to launch a shite ton of cruise missles. Other than that they're a small air force that's sea based. The army and the corps have it the worse. They're clearing shite in foot but they need the air support to help clear the battlefield.
Inless I'm completely wrong...I am almost positive the NAVY flies it own jets. I don't know in what capacity...but every time we get new planes..the navy gets their share.
Posted on 5/30/15 at 9:04 am to dreaux
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Inless I'm completely wrong...I am almost positive the NAVY flies it own jets. I don't know in what capacity...but every time we get new planes..the navy gets their share.
Yes they have their own jets but not to the scope and magnitude as the AF, but the AF and Navy almost never have the same fighter jets.
The 35 is going to change that.
This post was edited on 5/30/15 at 9:06 am
Posted on 5/30/15 at 9:04 am to dreaux
All are most important in their particular elements and scope
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