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Posted on 6/22/20 at 11:45 pm to Turbeauxdog
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For further context you’re an idiot for comparing the two.
Please expound.
Posted on 6/22/20 at 11:45 pm to SPEEDY
Robert E Lee claims another victim. Sad.
Posted on 6/22/20 at 11:47 pm to UpToPar
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Do you not agree that they could do more to prevent the senseless murder of blacks if they showed the same level of discontent with violence in their own community?
I genuinely don’t know. We have been locking people in cages for decades, and it hasn’t seemed to make much of a dent in the issue. Not sure what protests would accomplish.
Posted on 6/22/20 at 11:50 pm to biglego
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You can’t possibly believe this.
I absolutely do believe that, at least for some people involved. But sure, there are people out there because they want to frick shite up and watch the world burn. You’re not going to find a monolithic driving force in a group of tens, or hundreds, of thousands of people.
Posted on 6/22/20 at 11:50 pm to SHOtime Tiger
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Meh. Feels more like y’all trying to win an internet argument than actually mourning over a tragedy.
Which tragedy are you speaking of? The 3 year old killed or the violent felons killed?
If it’s Alton, George, or the Brooks guy I couldn’t give two fricks. Not to mention the countless other felons killed by police.
This post was edited on 6/22/20 at 11:53 pm
Posted on 6/22/20 at 11:53 pm to Joshjrn
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I genuinely don’t know.
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We have been locking people in cages for decades, and it hasn’t seemed to make much of a dent in the issue. Not sure what protests would accomplish.
Because locking people in cages is not the long term solution, it’s necessary, but change needs to be brought about from within the community. The cold hard reality is that violence is simply an accepted part of life in some communities. It doesn’t have to be that way, but there seems to be little to no push to change that. Instead, a ton of effort is put forth fighting the proverbial boogeyman.
This post was edited on 6/22/20 at 11:54 pm
Posted on 6/23/20 at 12:02 am to Joshjrn
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Please expound
Officers have legal authorization to commit, what would otherwise be assault, to perform an arrest. The officer was performing a legal hold on a resisting arrestee that he, per code, should relieve once the resisting arrestee is secure. If that didn’t have anything to do with the arrestee’s death we don’t even know if there is a crime to charge much less if we should charge the cop.
It would be like arresting someone while you’re not sure whether or not the death was a suicide.
Posted on 6/23/20 at 12:04 am to Joshjrn
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Joshjrn
I get what points you are trying to make, but where have you been the last month or so when this transitioned from a police matter to an all out racial attack? Do you not think it silly to cry out about police reform and racial injustice when those issues are a drop in the bucket compared to the issues that come from within the black community itself?
Posted on 6/23/20 at 12:12 am to Joshjrn
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I genuinely don’t know. We have been locking people in cages for decades, and it hasn’t seemed to make much of a dent in the issue. Not sure what protests would accomplish.
Wow. How about directing the energy currently aimed at BLM toward championing a cultural shift towards attitudes around education and the importance of 2-parent households?
Posted on 6/23/20 at 12:24 am to Rize
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Which tragedy are you speaking of?
whichever one you said “I do care but BLM doesn’t” about.
Posted on 6/23/20 at 2:35 am to SPEEDY
Mekhi’s life does not matter to them because that little babies death does not serve their political purposes.
Posted on 6/23/20 at 2:40 am to LSUJML
Memorial day weekend in chicago saw a 7,8, and 12 year old shot in a single drive by. Not a word from media.
Posted on 6/23/20 at 5:15 am to SPEEDY
He wasn’t old enough to have rap sheet yet
Posted on 6/23/20 at 5:39 am to Joshjrn
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short, because they don’t want to have to protest again.
Bull crap
Posted on 6/23/20 at 5:43 am to Turbeauxdog
Happened Monday the 25th. Investigation begins. 4 cops fired next day - 26th, investigated, and Chauvin arrested & charged with 3rd degree murder on Friday May 29th. AG charges other 3 cops June 3rd and increases charge on Chauvin.
Chauvin was pretty quick considering they had to separate legal duty to aid in resisting arrest that other officers called in for help and did not have autopsy showing knee directly caused death. Still don't have much on knee directly causing it but more on the delay to get off regardless of using knee to render aid especially for the 3 minutes after the original arresting officer told him he couldn't find pulse and how that fits with all Floyd's prexisting conditions on top of having Wuhan, delirium, and multiple drug cocktails in his system straining Floyd's system before Chauvin every arrived and causing him to claim breathing problems while still standing.
Reasonable people wouldn't riot or loot in first place and definitely not after seeing justice system work that quickly. Reasonable people wouldn't ignore death by cops happens more to whites and in proportion with blacks to arrests and crime committed (especially violent crime) and wouldn't make this part of black victimization and institutional racism and make it them the only lives that they can matter (with fine print only care when taken by white cop).
All Black Lives Can't Matter Until All Lives Matter Equally to All Blacks.
We can't do it for them. I believe they like other races including white can make this happen and don't think they need us to do it for them.
Chauvin was pretty quick considering they had to separate legal duty to aid in resisting arrest that other officers called in for help and did not have autopsy showing knee directly caused death. Still don't have much on knee directly causing it but more on the delay to get off regardless of using knee to render aid especially for the 3 minutes after the original arresting officer told him he couldn't find pulse and how that fits with all Floyd's prexisting conditions on top of having Wuhan, delirium, and multiple drug cocktails in his system straining Floyd's system before Chauvin every arrived and causing him to claim breathing problems while still standing.
Reasonable people wouldn't riot or loot in first place and definitely not after seeing justice system work that quickly. Reasonable people wouldn't ignore death by cops happens more to whites and in proportion with blacks to arrests and crime committed (especially violent crime) and wouldn't make this part of black victimization and institutional racism and make it them the only lives that they can matter (with fine print only care when taken by white cop).
All Black Lives Can't Matter Until All Lives Matter Equally to All Blacks.
We can't do it for them. I believe they like other races including white can make this happen and don't think they need us to do it for them.
This post was edited on 6/23/20 at 5:46 am
Posted on 6/23/20 at 5:55 am to SPEEDY
Posted the same sentiments this morning in another thread.
If blacks want a soul to rally around, this is a much better choice than Floyd or the Atlanta thug.
But this kid wasn’t killed by a cop or a white person, so not a word or ounce of outrage.
That’s why I will never take their “movement” seriously.
If blacks want a soul to rally around, this is a much better choice than Floyd or the Atlanta thug.
But this kid wasn’t killed by a cop or a white person, so not a word or ounce of outrage.
That’s why I will never take their “movement” seriously.
Posted on 6/23/20 at 6:43 am to SPEEDY
It will be ignored bc people cant justify rioting, stealing, destruction, etc.....over a childs death. It must be an adult black male.
Posted on 6/23/20 at 6:57 am to Lou Pai
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Wow. How about directing the energy currently aimed at BLM toward championing a cultural shift towards attitudes around education and the importance of 2-parent households?
This is the solution
To fix a problem is not to find ways to handle the “rejects”, it’s to find ways to make more good parts.
Like a manager at a factory won’t win anything by stating “We’ve got a shiny new bin to take care of our bad parts”. The manager will get things done by figuring out how to produce a higher percentage of OK parts
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