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re: Where do you think a new Mississippi River Bridge should cross ?
Posted on 12/13/19 at 2:53 pm to Ed Osteen
Posted on 12/13/19 at 2:53 pm to Ed Osteen
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I would imagine a good bit of it, especially 18 wheelers
18 wheelers, yes.
But how much total traffic would they get?
Some traffic counts:
I-10:
mile point 1.74 near Texas line 2016 59K
Mile point 20.7 near Westlake 2016 61K
Mile point 24.78 near west of I210 101K
Mile point 26.42 near east of I210 75K
Mile point 34.07 near west of I210 64K
Mile point 36.26 near east of I210 78K
Mile point 63.13 near Jennings 2015 37K
Mile point 102.89 west of I49 2015 74K
Milepoint 105.1 east of I49 2015 60K
Mile point 134.03 spillway 41K 2015
Mile point 150.3 west of Lobdell 52K 2016
Mile point 154.81 bridge WBR side 106K 2016
Mile point 155.73 bridge east of 30 ramp 108K
Mile point 156.3 east of 110 merge 149K 2014
Mile point 159.29 west of 10/12 split 155K2017
Mile point 160.75East of split b4 Essen 129K
Mile point 164.73 east of Siegen 90K 2014
Mile point 186.92 west of Airline int 47K 2016
Mile point 197.17 east of Lutcher bridge 35K 2015
I12 counts:
Mile point 5.04 east of Sherwood 116K 2014
Mile point 8.29 east of Amite R 80K 2017
Mile point 34.15 East if Natalbany R 78K 2018
Mile point 37.14 east of I55 73K 2016
Mile point 39.9 west of I55 69 K 2016
Mile point 58.32 west of La 21 71K 2018
Mile point 67.02 east of La 59 66K 2018
Mile point 83.81 west of 83 65K 2015
Back on I-10 west of state line near W Pearl R
Mile point 270.81 47K 2015
US190 west of La1 connection 20K 2016
US 190 East of river before Scenic 26K 2017
La 1 just South of 190 18K 2016
La 10 just East of Audubon Bridge 3K 2012
How many are cars? 18 wheelers? How many go from Vinton to Slidell ? Who knows, but trying to use the Audubon Bridge to redirect traffic around BR seems like a huge waste of money.
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Posted on 12/13/19 at 2:53 pm to Scrote
Posted on 12/13/19 at 2:55 pm to Ed Osteen
Posted on 12/13/19 at 2:58 pm to Scrote
Now did you think you could ask a simple question without the Stupid comments??
Posted on 12/13/19 at 3:02 pm to kingbob
Sounds like a lot of excuses but all proving my point that there are plenty of viable options, it’s just people don’t like to look in the mirror when they complain about the interstate traffic. Instead bitch while sitting in traffic while adding to the problem .
Posted on 12/13/19 at 3:02 pm to kingbob
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Most traffic on the interstate is going to one of a few places:
1. Through traffic that isn’t stopping in BR. They would benefit from a decent bypass.
2. Workers commuting to 110 downtown for state offices and Exxon.
3. Students going to LSU, Southern, BRCC (it’s a lot of people as evidenced by how much less bad traffic is when school is out)
4. Hospital district along Essen
5. Workers commuting to jobs on the west bank at the Port, Placid Refinery, and DOW.
How many of the 110K plus that use the BR bridge daily would it redirect?
A southern bridge gets those Dow people off the road, and DOW by itself employs tens of thousands of full-time employees and construction contractors. Probably close to 1/4 to a 1/3 of that 110k would be diverted.
A northern bypass could help divert some of that through traffic.
The bottleneck at the MSR bridge and the LA-1 Intracoastal Canal bridge backs up the rest of the system. It’s not like the surface streets in BR aren’t shitshows as well. We have a road grid designed for 200k people inhabited by 800k people. Too much shite getting sucked through too small a straw.
+1 to all that.
A bridge should go south of Plaquemine across to St. Gabe not just to facilitate traffic but to do so in a way that means we won't right back in the same position just 10 years after the bridge is completed.
Moving it that far down (which is roughly equidistant between the I10 bridge and the Sunshine bridge) opens up far more room for growth (growth follows the interstate in a scenario like this) as well as gives the flow-through traffic a complete bypass of the city. As a bonus, the bridge in conjunction with a southern loop similar to the image I posted would mean people along LA1 from WC to the Intracoastal are no longer beholden to LA1 traffic and/or the Intracoastal Bridge.
Putting a bridge in there and making it part of a southern loop along with the currently planned changes to the 110-12 corridor and you'll have taken care of a large majority of the Baton Rouge traffic issues for at least the next 30 years.
Posted on 12/13/19 at 3:04 pm to Scrote
Between Natchez and Vicksburg would work for me.
Posted on 12/13/19 at 3:05 pm to Scrote
Tickfaw!
Posted on 12/13/19 at 3:06 pm to Scrote
I think it should be a tunnel instead of a bridge
Posted on 12/13/19 at 3:07 pm to kingbob
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Imagine you work in Plaquemine at Dow.
quote:
Now, at 60 minutes, you can get to Denham Springs, Walker, Gonzales,
It takes me 30-45 minutes on most days to get from home (just off Millerville) to work (downtown) or vice-versa.
My mom's family was originally from WC, my grandfather worked in BR for decades. Even back then he was leaving at around 6am to get to work by 7-7:30am (this was in the 70's and 80's).
I think you're being a bit too forgiving in your time estimate.
This post was edited on 12/13/19 at 3:08 pm
Posted on 12/13/19 at 3:10 pm to Ed Osteen
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option 3 works best IMO
1, 2, 4, 5, 3
But I'd take ANY of them
This post was edited on 12/13/19 at 3:12 pm
Posted on 12/13/19 at 3:13 pm to SuperSaint
"Divert cross country traffic from I-10" seems to be the main focus on everything. What we need to be doing is diverting local traffic from ever getting on I-10 in the daily commute.
No one travelling across the country is going to take a loop to go around Baton Rouge. Travelers want to stay on ONE road number for as long as possible.
No one travelling across the country is going to take a loop to go around Baton Rouge. Travelers want to stay on ONE road number for as long as possible.
Posted on 12/13/19 at 3:19 pm to Scrote
I'll be retired or too old to drive by the time this thing ever gets built.
Posted on 12/13/19 at 3:22 pm to Scrote
What will they call the new and old bridge?
Posted on 12/13/19 at 3:23 pm to Shexter
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What we need to be doing is diverting local traffic from ever getting on I-10 in the daily commute.
I-10 runs through the heart of the city. There's absolutely no way to accomplish this without a complete re-working of a frickton of roadways in a manner that would cost even more than a new bridge. Even then the natural inclination will be for people to take that big roadway with higher speed limits and no red lights.
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No one travelling across the country is going to take a loop to go around Baton Rouge.
Every traffic loop in the country disagrees.
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Travelers want to stay on ONE road number for as long as possible.
Valid point. Just rename the new route as I 10 and rename the route running through the city as something else (410, for example).
This post was edited on 12/13/19 at 3:26 pm
Posted on 12/13/19 at 4:13 pm to blueboy
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As close to the existing one as possible. A new one isn't going to alleviate much traffic if it doesn't service I-10.
Disagree, it will alleviate traffic further south, but there must be approaches off of I-10 west of BTR to let 18-wheelers by-pass the city
This post was edited on 12/13/19 at 4:14 pm
Posted on 12/13/19 at 4:23 pm to tommy2tone1999
I'd be perfectly okay with a BR bypass. Sounds clusterfricky though.
Posted on 12/13/19 at 5:03 pm to Shexter
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"Divert cross country traffic from I-10" seems to be the main focus on everything. What we need to be doing is diverting local traffic from ever getting on I-10 in the daily commute.
That plus figuring out a strategy to get West Bank workers over the river without using the 10 bridge.
Posted on 12/13/19 at 5:45 pm to Scrote
Wherever it most benefits the rich guy who make the most payoffs to the right politicians
You are talking Louisiana
You are talking Louisiana
Posted on 12/13/19 at 6:02 pm to Shexter
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Also, eliminate most of the street crossings and traffic lights on Florida Blvd. all the way from Denham to downtown BR. Make Florida Blvd. an expressway with on and off ramps via the service roads that already exist. Many Denham Springers would take that route to their state jobs instead of using the interstate.
This is a damn good idea!
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