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re: When you lose weight it's inaccurate to say you've burned more calories than you take in.

Posted on 1/18/18 at 3:09 pm to
Posted by TigerstuckinMS
Member since Nov 2005
33687 posts
Posted on 1/18/18 at 3:09 pm to
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So we should just do meth, cause that does make you skinny.

Badger was pretty chunky, but I'm guessing before meth, Skinny Pete was just Pete.
Posted by MountainTiger
The foot of Mt. Belzoni
Member since Dec 2008
14976 posts
Posted on 1/18/18 at 3:34 pm to
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So weight loss causes global warming?

I'm doing my part.
Posted by FlyinTiger93
Member since May 2010
3724 posts
Posted on 1/18/18 at 3:53 pm to
So, mass in versus mass out. That means I need to take more really big craps to slim down. My plumber will love this idea.
Posted by Hulkklogan
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Oct 2010
43482 posts
Posted on 1/18/18 at 4:37 pm to
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When you lose weight it's inaccurate to say you've burned more calories than you take in.


So you watch one shitty, pointless TED talk on Youtube and you're ready to change the whole paradigm?

We measure calories because you have to be in an energy deficit to get your body to mobilize body fat. You have to be actively expending more energy than you are eating. Body fat is stored energy. We can measure the amount of calories a food has, and we can measure the amount of calories your body needs to maintain homeostasis. He completely breezes over this in the video, but it's the key part of losing weight. You don't just simply take in less calories and your body magically breathes out carbon dioxide; there's an incredibly complex process that your body uses to mobilize stored fat, break it down to fatty acids, and transport it to cells, where it can be used to produce ATP (among other things). That all takes energy, and the fat gives you energy. That is why we measure calories.

Two food items of the same mass could carry extraordinarily different amounts of calories within them because of the varying amount of energy our bodies get out of the food.

How would you propose measuring food intake by mass? How much mass is too much? How much mass is too little? How do we measure the amount of carbon dioxide and oxygen you're breathing out?




If you want to watch real science on fat metabolism, here you go, straight from someone who has a PHD in nutritional science:
LINK
Posted by Barbellthor
Columbia
Member since Aug 2015
11587 posts
Posted on 1/18/18 at 5:11 pm to
I burned more calories to lose mass than I took in to gain mass. Ok, you happy yet?
Posted by EA6B
TX
Member since Dec 2012
14754 posts
Posted on 1/18/18 at 6:04 pm to
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How would you propose measuring food intake by mass? How much mass is too much? How much mass How do we measure the amount of carbon dioxide and oxygen you're breathing out?


By using "indirect calorimetry", commonly used in metabolism and nutrition research.

"Indirect calorimetry is a technique that measures inspired and expired gas flows, volumes and concentrations of O2 and CO2. allows measurement of oxygen consumption and carbon dioxide production. non-invasive and accurate. the equipment used is also known as a metabolic cart."

LINK
Posted by Hulkklogan
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Oct 2010
43482 posts
Posted on 1/18/18 at 6:22 pm to
Is that a feasible solution for the average person, in their home?
Posted by Rebel
Graceland
Member since Jan 2005
144681 posts
Posted on 1/18/18 at 6:25 pm to
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it's inaccurate to say you've burned more calories than you take in.


If that is true then eating more and burning less calories should make one lose weight.
Posted by Volvagia
Fort Worth
Member since Mar 2006
53613 posts
Posted on 1/18/18 at 7:19 pm to
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Not necessarily. The point is maybe we're looking at measuring our food intake in the wrong terms. Maybe we should be looking at in term of mass in versus mass out. That is eat less in grams than you excrete out as CO2 and water.


Flaw: consuming 1 gram of protein, 1 gram of sugar, doesn’t correlate directly with losing/gaining 1 gram of weight
Posted by CptBengal
BR Baby
Member since Dec 2007
71661 posts
Posted on 1/18/18 at 7:20 pm to
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Flaw: consuming 1 gram of protein, 1 gram of sugar, doesn’t correlate directly with losing/gaining 1 gram of weight



thank you.

turning biochemistry into a playdough set isnt effective.....for anyone
Posted by JPLSU1981
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2005
28440 posts
Posted on 1/18/18 at 7:44 pm to
I’m no scientist, but if you burn more calories than you eat, you will lose weight. Period.
Posted by Bestbank Tiger
Premium Member
Member since Jan 2005
82463 posts
Posted on 1/18/18 at 9:41 pm to
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Or fat people cause global cooling...


See? Americans are leading the fight against global warming, by sequestering carbon in out bodies!
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