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re: When you drank 2 beers and your brain says I’ll have 30 more
Posted on 5/25/20 at 2:33 am to Marco Esquandolas
Posted on 5/25/20 at 2:33 am to Marco Esquandolas
I just keep trying to get a little better, said a little better than before
Posted on 5/25/20 at 2:36 am to Steadyhands
I think he's talking about the pill naltrexone. It's a pill with varying degrees of success, but some people are able to stop drinking on it, although it was originally intended for opiate addicts and also comes in a shot form that last a month, called vivitrol.
If you're an opiate addict, the idea is you take it or get the shot and it helps you get some sobriety under your belt so that your brain can start healing itself which will eventually lead to less cravings and also make them easier to manage. It attaches to your opioid receptors, so if you do any opiates, you essentially just waste the drug because naltrexone blocks it.
Unfortunately, when dealing with alcohol, it has no such "blocking" affect. For alcoholics, it's supposed to stop cravings and, as I mentioned before, it's success varies greatly with alcoholics because they can still get drunk on it. The success also varies for opiate addicts, but it's more due to basically someone's willpower, to simplify and not go too in depth.
Many alcoholics don't like it because they say the meds gives them bad dreams and weird side effects, but I'm not sure about that. Most people have crazy dreams when they first stop drinking/drugging, so those dreams could be related to that.
All and all, if you're an opiate addict, I would highly recommend. It's a shame we've allowed suboxone/methadone to be pushed but not vivitrol/naltrexone. Suboxone and methadone have horrible withdrawals if/when you get off. They're way worse than getting off whatever opiate you got put on subs/methadone for. Vivitrol/naltrexone don't have any withdrawals or they dont get you high like the other 2 and they work better. If you're an alcoholic and you've been trying to stop drinking, it doesn't hurt to try it, especially if you've exhausted other methods. It has the potential to curb your cravings for drinks.
If you're an opiate addict, the idea is you take it or get the shot and it helps you get some sobriety under your belt so that your brain can start healing itself which will eventually lead to less cravings and also make them easier to manage. It attaches to your opioid receptors, so if you do any opiates, you essentially just waste the drug because naltrexone blocks it.
Unfortunately, when dealing with alcohol, it has no such "blocking" affect. For alcoholics, it's supposed to stop cravings and, as I mentioned before, it's success varies greatly with alcoholics because they can still get drunk on it. The success also varies for opiate addicts, but it's more due to basically someone's willpower, to simplify and not go too in depth.
Many alcoholics don't like it because they say the meds gives them bad dreams and weird side effects, but I'm not sure about that. Most people have crazy dreams when they first stop drinking/drugging, so those dreams could be related to that.
All and all, if you're an opiate addict, I would highly recommend. It's a shame we've allowed suboxone/methadone to be pushed but not vivitrol/naltrexone. Suboxone and methadone have horrible withdrawals if/when you get off. They're way worse than getting off whatever opiate you got put on subs/methadone for. Vivitrol/naltrexone don't have any withdrawals or they dont get you high like the other 2 and they work better. If you're an alcoholic and you've been trying to stop drinking, it doesn't hurt to try it, especially if you've exhausted other methods. It has the potential to curb your cravings for drinks.
This post was edited on 5/25/20 at 2:37 am
Posted on 5/25/20 at 3:01 am to saint tiger225
It's called the Sinclair method. One Little Pill is a documentary about how to use naltrexone correclty to stop drinking. The video I linked is a trailer for that documentary.
There is also a book called The Cure for Alcoholism by Dr. Roy Eskapa. It's just too much to explain in an internet post forum.
While AA (Alcoholics Anonymous) is around 5-8% successful the first time. TSM (The Sinclair Method) is 80% successful the first time people try to quit drinking on it. I am living proof it works, and is quite easy
There is also a book called The Cure for Alcoholism by Dr. Roy Eskapa. It's just too much to explain in an internet post forum.
While AA (Alcoholics Anonymous) is around 5-8% successful the first time. TSM (The Sinclair Method) is 80% successful the first time people try to quit drinking on it. I am living proof it works, and is quite easy
This post was edited on 5/25/20 at 3:03 am
Posted on 5/25/20 at 3:08 am to saint tiger225
quote:
I think he's talking about the pill naltrexone. It's a pill with varying degrees of success, but some people are able to stop drinking on it, although it was originally intended for opiate addicts and also comes in a shot form that last a month, called vivitrol. If you're an opiate addict, the idea is you take it or get the shot and it helps you get some sobriety under your belt so that your brain can start healing itself which will eventually lead to less cravings and also make them easier to manage. It attaches to your opioid receptors, so if you do any opiates, you essentially just waste the drug because naltrexone blocks it. Unfortunately, when dealing with alcohol, it has no such "blocking" affect. For alcoholics, it's supposed to stop cravings and, as I mentioned before, it's success varies greatly with alcoholics because they can still get drunk on it. The success also varies for opiate addicts, but it's more due to basically someone's willpower, to simplify and not go too in depth. Many alcoholics don't like it because they say the meds gives them bad dreams and weird side effects, but I'm not sure about that. Most people have crazy dreams when they first stop drinking/drugging, so those dreams could be related to that. All and all, if you're an opiate addict, I would highly recommend. It's a shame we've allowed suboxone/methadone to be pushed but not vivitrol/naltrexone. Suboxone and methadone have horrible withdrawals if/when you get off. They're way worse than getting off whatever opiate you got put on subs/methadone for. Vivitrol/naltrexone don't have any withdrawals or they dont get you high like the other 2 and they work better. If you're an alcoholic and you've been trying to stop drinking, it doesn't hurt to try it, especially if you've exhausted other methods. It has the potential to curb your cravings for drinks.
To put it simply, Naltrexone was never meant to be used as an everyday drug. That is why people have side effects on it. It was pushed as an everyday drug to get the FDA approval. Use of Naltrexone to treat alcoholism was discovered in the 70's but only recently was it FDA approved. Again, long story, but the book will explain all of it.
Posted on 5/25/20 at 3:49 am to Mr Personality
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When you drank 2 beers and your brain says I’ll have 30 more
Start drinking real beer and you won't have this problem.
Posted on 5/25/20 at 6:01 am to Marco Esquandolas
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I used to do a little but a little wouldn’t do it, so a little got more and more” —some ‘80’s band
Yep Guns and Roses ...,Mr Brownstone...about heroin addiction.
Posted on 5/25/20 at 6:12 am to Mr Personality
I find I simply don’t enjoy having fewer than 4-5 drinks. The number of opportunities I have to drink like that has decreased over the years so I drink less now. Having one or two drinks just makes my head hurt so I don’t even try.
Posted on 5/25/20 at 6:14 am to Mr Personality
Doubt you can drink 32 beers in one setting,but if you really do and it is on a consistent basis you might need some help.
Posted on 5/25/20 at 8:34 am to Horsemeat
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took me about 20 years to figure out that I can't just have 2, so it's best to have zero and find something else to do instead of waking up not knowing what I had done, posted on social media, who is pissed at me, where my car is, etc. Next week makes 15 months sober
Pussy
Posted on 5/25/20 at 8:51 am to Mr Personality
Whiskey is so much more efficient.
Posted on 5/25/20 at 8:59 am to Mr Personality
I had to front the alcohol aisles this morning.
I have over 3.5 years of sobriety, but I could virtually taste the blue raspberry vodka
I have over 3.5 years of sobriety, but I could virtually taste the blue raspberry vodka
Posted on 5/25/20 at 10:06 am to Mr Clean
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had to front the alcohol aisles this morning.
I have over 3.5 years of sobriety, but I could virtually taste the blue raspberry vodka
I would have to refuse this work. I’m 4 years sober this month and I complete avoid the liquor section at the store. I’m very rarely tempted in any way to go get a drink. But I’ve been kinda wondering around the store before trying to think what I need next and found myself right by the liquor. Like you, I could taste the fruity vodkas because that’s what I drank at the end. Fruity vodka straight.
I immediately left and vowed to never go on that aisle again. I can’t really say I almost drank, but it got the wheels turning just a wee bit and I can’t risk that.
Posted on 5/25/20 at 10:07 am to Marco Esquandolas
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used to do a little but a little wouldn’t do it, so a little got more and more”
—some ‘80’s band
Guns N Roses, Mr Brownstone amd he’s referring to heroin.
Posted on 5/25/20 at 10:09 am to noonan
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I'll go a month or two without drinking and not miss it one bit. But I do still enjoy a beer so I don't know that I'll ever completely quit.
That’s where I am at in my life.
Up until I was 30, it was coke and whiskey 3-4 nights a week. Waking in a haze wondering if I had made an arse out of myself.
Now, I’ll have a beer or two at home maybe once very month or so. I’ll be really drunk once every 6 months or so. I’m sort of an annoying drunk so I try to keep it to a minimum.
Posted on 5/25/20 at 10:11 am to Prominentwon
I used to be able to handle 30 a day on a weekend trip to the camp. Now it’s like maybe 8-9 bud heavies a day.....
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