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re: When was the United States at its peak - in relation to the world?

Posted on 10/7/16 at 10:50 pm to
Posted by Peazey
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Posted on 10/7/16 at 10:50 pm to
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But this could likewise be said about the British Empire prior to 1945.


Yeah but no. No, it couldn't. It kind of isn't even worth engaging any further because of how ludicrous of a statement this is.
Posted by LSUTigersVCURams
Member since Jul 2014
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Posted on 10/7/16 at 10:53 pm to
No he is basically right. The British geopolitical strategy of controlling the world by controlling the sea was completely adopted whole cloth by the U.S. post-WW2.
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Posted by ChewyDante
Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 10/7/16 at 10:53 pm to
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Yeah but no. No, it couldn't. It kind of isn't even worth engaging any further because of how ludicrous of a statement this is.


It's ludicrous to say the British empire was the preeminent global power prior to WWII and for many centuries? I'm not making a direct comparison to the geopolitical context, mind you, as that is implicitly an impossible comparison.
Posted by LSUTigersVCURams
Member since Jul 2014
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Posted on 10/7/16 at 10:55 pm to
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Mexico in 2060 and beyond will be a political force.


How do you figure that??
Posted by cubsfan5150
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Posted on 10/7/16 at 11:00 pm to
You prove yourself to be an idiot over and over again
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
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Posted on 10/7/16 at 11:05 pm to
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1945. We could have at that point taken over the entire world.



Yep. That's why anyone who tries to rail on "American imperialism" looks so damn stupid.
Posted by Jim Rockford
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Posted on 10/7/16 at 11:06 pm to
September 1945.
Posted by ChewyDante
Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 10/7/16 at 11:18 pm to
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September 1945.


Go on...
Posted by Gaston
Dirty Coast
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Posted on 10/7/16 at 11:22 pm to
Now. We could crush it if we weren't so preoccupied with having such a legitimate political system. America 2.0 would be dominate. Rethink what modern capitalism should look like. That's a start.
Posted by LCA131
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Posted on 10/8/16 at 10:21 am to
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Cliffs? I don't feel like Googling I'm navigating a fantasy trade right now.



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Posted by OMLandshark
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Posted on 10/8/16 at 10:50 am to
90s. The 50s are overrated.
Posted by Dick Leverage
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Posted on 10/8/16 at 11:19 am to
Both of you are ignorant as hell. If you put today's American men , especially the faggoty snowflakes like you two, in the shoes of our 1940s men, America would have been beaten into submission by 1942.
Posted by Volvagia
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Posted on 10/8/16 at 11:57 am to
1992-1998
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Posted by The Cool No 9
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Posted on 10/8/16 at 12:07 pm to
I was going to say anything after the victory of WW2 through the fifties. The economic devlopment was staggering.
Posted by LSUTANGERINE
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Posted on 10/8/16 at 12:59 pm to
After WW2 to present
Posted by Napoleon
Kenna
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Posted on 10/8/16 at 5:44 pm to
I think everyone disagreeing is forgetting that we had something no one else had, and no one else would for two years. We also had minimal casulties and millions of able bodied fighting men ready to deploy.

Not saying we should have taken over the world, I am just saying after VJ day we were hands down the most powerful country in the world with no peers. Starting in 1947 we faced possible nuclear retaliation from the USSR. That two year window before then, no one could have stopped us.
Posted by Tigris
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Member since Jul 2005
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Posted on 10/8/16 at 5:51 pm to
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The struggle against Bolshevism didn't end in 1990 or 91. Who's to say the slow play isn't still on from their end?


Upvote.
Posted by Tigris
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Member since Jul 2005
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Posted on 10/8/16 at 5:53 pm to
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Who is going to beat the United States? Who is going to invade?


The Romans thought exactly like this.
Posted by Tigris
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Member since Jul 2005
13220 posts
Posted on 10/8/16 at 6:09 pm to
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I think everyone disagreeing is forgetting that we had something no one else had, and no one else would for two years. We also had minimal casulties and millions of able bodied fighting men ready to deploy.


Sure - we could have gone all "Napolean" on the USSR. No sane person would have taken that route. Even with nukes (which would have been mandatory) - why is this a good idea? And the Russians had shown an insane ability to absorb punishment. Even with nukes we wanted no part of that.

We couldn't even occupy Vietnam, let alone the rest of the world too.

I'd say the US peak was the collapse of the USSR and a few years after.

Posted by jeffsdad
Member since Mar 2007
25317 posts
Posted on 10/8/16 at 7:27 pm to
when we had the atomic bomb and no one else did we had the potential to rule the world. but chose not to
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