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re: When I plug my coax into my DVR, my speakers HUMMMMMM

Posted on 1/20/14 at 3:27 pm to
Posted by Corkfather
Houston
Member since Sep 2007
19748 posts
Posted on 1/20/14 at 3:27 pm to
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Fair enough. I also only have 2 HDMI in on my TV, so the receiver (with 4 HDMI in) is the way to go for me to get 4 devices instead of only 2.


I have the opposite. 4 on the TV, 2 in on the receiver with no out.
Posted by GrammarKnotsi
Member since Feb 2013
9440 posts
Posted on 1/20/14 at 3:31 pm to
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loss of audio quality when you use your TV to process the signal to your AV components.


Could you not have the same argument that running from the receiver to the TV would cause a loss in video quality
Posted by Corkfather
Houston
Member since Sep 2007
19748 posts
Posted on 1/20/14 at 3:33 pm to
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Could you not have the same argument that running from the receiver to the TV would cause a loss in video quality


Hey, no arguing here. TigerWise said no.
Posted by ULSU
Tasmania
Member since Jan 2014
3931 posts
Posted on 1/20/14 at 3:33 pm to
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Could you not have the same argument that running from the receiver to the TV would cause a loss in video quality


Theoretically, yes; however, most receivers are made with quality processing for this purpose. TVs are not. They are made to produce an image on the screen primarily.
Posted by TigerWise
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Posted on 1/20/14 at 3:34 pm to
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Could you not have the same argument that running from the receiver to the TV would cause a loss in video quality


The receiver is sending the sound strait to the speakers.

Eta: just read you are talking about video not audio my bad. But in most cases the chicken shite cable box isn't anything better than the receiver. Some receivers can improve the signal.
This post was edited on 1/20/14 at 3:42 pm
Posted by htownjeep
Republic of Texas
Member since Jun 2005
7617 posts
Posted on 1/20/14 at 3:35 pm to
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The receiver is sending the sound strait to the speakers.

Country music fan eh?
Posted by TigerWise
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Posted on 1/20/14 at 3:38 pm to
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Hey, no arguing here. TigerWise said no


Bro you came at me earlier in the thread. I told you I wasn't trying to be a dick and that I worked within the industry. You still came with the smart arse lines. Sounds like your only experiences with this stuff is your newer TV and old arse receiver. Sorry if you don't understand but several people in here have already clarified what is correct.
Posted by TigerWise
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Member since Sep 2010
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Posted on 1/20/14 at 3:39 pm to
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Country music fan eh?


Haha, I just caught that. Can't wIt for the Rodeo lol.
Posted by Corkfather
Houston
Member since Sep 2007
19748 posts
Posted on 1/20/14 at 3:40 pm to
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Bro you came at me earlier in the thread. I told you I wasn't trying to be a dick and that I worked within the industry. You still came with the smart arse lines. Sounds like your only experiences with this stuff is your newer TV and old arse receiver. Sorry if you don't understand but several people in here have already clarified what is correct.


I said nothing earlier that was smart arse, I was serious as frick talking about buying the receiver. Secondly, once corrected about the audio quality, I never argued about it. I just said I'd rather buy a cable than a receiver.
Posted by NYCAuburn
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Member since Feb 2011
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Posted on 1/20/14 at 3:50 pm to
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Could you not have the same argument that running from the receiver to the TV would cause a loss in video quality


possibly, but the receivers are designed with this function in mind, tv's are not. Most also dont allow you to switch cabling formats, which is the problem with HDMI in and optical out on a TV
Posted by mchias1
Member since Dec 2009
815 posts
Posted on 1/20/14 at 4:19 pm to
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No..I go HDMIs to the TV..Then I use one optical cable to the receiver..I don't need to change inputs on the receiver when I change to another source...This also allows me to not have to watch everything with surround sound.


You may want to change your setup. Most tvs cripple the optical out unless you are watching something using the TV's tuner. I've seen almost every tv I've dealt with not pass along anything but stereo to the receiver. For best results connect your HDMI through your receiver or bring optical from every source to your receiver. if you are getting surround sound your receiver may be emulating surround w/ the stereo signal it's getting
Posted by VABuckeye
Naples, FL
Member since Dec 2007
35695 posts
Posted on 1/20/14 at 4:41 pm to
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What you're missing is that the TV only has HDMI inputs, not outputs. You can't run everything through the receiver because then you won't have video.


Wut??????

Ok, to clarify. A surround sound receiver with HDMI in passes the video through to a TV with an HDMI input. This is the preferred method as you can plug all of your inputs in the the receiver, PLAY THE SOUND for all inputs on your system and PASS THE VIDEO through to the TV via the HDMI monitor output on the receiver.

This allows you to park the TV on one input and switch sources through the receiver. This is the preferred and best method for switching sources as some brands of TVs have a clunky interface when it comes to changing sources. Additionally when I program a remote or home automation system for these functions it is much more reliable to switch the a receiver or surround processor.
This post was edited on 1/20/14 at 4:49 pm
Posted by VABuckeye
Naples, FL
Member since Dec 2007
35695 posts
Posted on 1/20/14 at 4:43 pm to
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.The traditional way was TV to receiver.


No it isn't and never was. Only an idiot that doesn't understand signal flow would hook up a system like that if the receiver has the proper ins and outs and pretty much every one out there right now does.

Just to put my credentials out there. I've been designing and installing home automation and home and commercial audio/video systems for about 15 years although my focus has recently switched more to data cabling in data centers. i still do the home stuff. It's just by referral and word of mouth now.
This post was edited on 1/20/14 at 4:51 pm
Posted by Pax Regis
Alabama
Member since Sep 2007
12987 posts
Posted on 1/20/14 at 4:59 pm to
I'm using a Harmon Kardon 1700 that has six HMDIs in and one out to the TV. Also has Airplay and network connectivity. It's awesome and only $300 these days.

To the guy who said run an optical back to the receiver - yeah not gonna do that.

Harmon Kardon AVR 1700
Posted by TheEnglishman
On the road to Wellville
Member since Mar 2010
3119 posts
Posted on 1/20/14 at 5:06 pm to
purchase a ground loop isolator. Easy peezy
Posted by Zilla
Member since Jul 2005
10599 posts
Posted on 1/20/14 at 5:30 pm to
I'm gonna run by the xfinity store tomorrow (right by work) and see if they will give me one.
Posted by GrammarKnotsi
Member since Feb 2013
9440 posts
Posted on 1/21/14 at 6:46 am to
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never was.


quote:

pretty much every one out there right now does


So is it "never was" or is it "ones out there now"...
Posted by VABuckeye
Naples, FL
Member since Dec 2007
35695 posts
Posted on 1/21/14 at 7:50 am to
That's all you could come up with? History lesson. Receivers used to be stereo and they didn't pass video. Now are in surround sound and they do pass video.
Posted by GrammarKnotsi
Member since Feb 2013
9440 posts
Posted on 1/21/14 at 8:02 am to
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used to


quote:

Now


But you said "never"..So your credibility is out the window
Posted by htownjeep
Republic of Texas
Member since Jun 2005
7617 posts
Posted on 1/21/14 at 8:10 am to
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Harmon Kardon 1700

What is the opinion on this one from the experts in here? My surround sound receiver in the kitchen got fried by a power surge (was an old Sony...no big loss) and I'm going to put the one in my living room in the kitchen and upgrade the living room receiver.
On the surface this looks like it fits me well. I like the HDMI inputs and also the Airplay thing.

Thoughts?
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